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From: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
To: Keith Packard <keithp@keithp.com>
Cc: "Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>,
	"Richard Henderson" <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
	"QEMU Developers" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Semihost SYS_READC implementation (v4)
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2019 10:54:54 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFEAcA8FyDVOrJPYGKs_Lgq1oMHuVENu=ggJe69OugQvZRZ0cA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87r22at7po.fsf@keithp.com>

On Thu, 14 Nov 2019 at 22:27, Keith Packard <keithp@keithp.com> wrote:
>
> Richard Henderson <richard.henderson@linaro.org> writes:
>
> > For semi-hosting, it seems even better if the semi-hosting syscall instruction
> > is not "real", because you're explicitly requesting services from "unreal"
> > hardware.  It should be specified to generate a SIGILL type of exception
> > anywhere semi-hosting is not enabled.
>
> In the QEMU case, yes, it's virtual hardware. However, the other common case
> for semihosting is when doing hardware bringup using JTAG or other
> remote debugging link -- having an instruction which safely traps to the
> debugger is required to make semihosting usable there. Reading through
> the history of the current RISC-V semihosting mechanism, there were many
> designs considered and rejected because they wouldn't work in the JTAG
> environment.
>
> > With that in mind, it may be simpler to handle all of this not in the
> > translator, but in the function that delivers the ebreak exception.  At that
> > point one can arrange to read memory without raising additional
> > exceptions.
>
> I'll go explore and see if I can figure any of this out.
>
> I'd still like to get the non-RISC-V SYS_READC patch landed someday :-)

It's on my queue to review if nobody else gets to it first, but since
we're in freeze right now it won't be landing til after the release
happens (expected mid-December).

thanks
-- PMM


  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-15 10:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-23 19:26 [PATCH] Semihost SYS_READC implementation (v3) Keith Packard
2019-10-24 17:33 ` no-reply
2019-10-24 18:54   ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-10-24 22:46     ` [PATCH] Semihost SYS_READC implementation (v4) Keith Packard
2019-10-25  9:51       ` Alex Bennée
2019-10-25 16:36         ` Keith Packard
2019-10-25 16:49           ` Peter Maydell
2019-10-25 19:15             ` Keith Packard
2019-10-25 20:53               ` Peter Maydell
2019-10-25 23:18                 ` Keith Packard
2019-11-04 20:42                   ` [PATCH] Semihost SYS_READC implementation (v6) Keith Packard
2019-12-17  8:38                     ` Alex Bennée
2019-12-17  9:08                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-12-17  9:51                         ` Alex Bennée
2019-12-17 10:04                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-12-17 12:14                             ` [RFC PATCH] semihosting: suspend recieving CPU when blocked (HACK, WIP) Alex Bennée
2019-12-17 12:22                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-12-17 13:42                                 ` Alex Bennée
2019-12-17 13:48                                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-12-17 14:18                                     ` Alex Bennée
2019-12-17 14:39                                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-12-17 14:39                                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-12-18 17:36                                         ` Alex Bennée
2019-12-18 21:23                                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-11-05  5:10                 ` [PATCH] Semihost SYS_READC implementation (v4) Keith Packard
2019-11-11 14:51                   ` Peter Maydell
2019-11-14 15:46                     ` Alistair Francis
2019-11-14 17:43                       ` Keith Packard
2019-11-14 17:39                     ` Keith Packard
2019-11-14 17:47                       ` Peter Maydell
2019-11-14 19:20                         ` Peter Maydell
2019-11-14 16:14               ` Peter Maydell
2019-11-14 18:05                 ` Keith Packard
2019-11-14 18:18                   ` Peter Maydell
2019-11-14 19:18                 ` Richard Henderson
2019-11-14 19:29                   ` Peter Maydell
2019-11-14 20:52                     ` Richard Henderson
2019-11-14 21:04                       ` Peter Maydell
2019-11-14 22:26                   ` Keith Packard
2019-11-15 10:54                     ` Peter Maydell [this message]
2019-11-15 23:40                       ` Keith Packard
2019-10-25 17:02           ` Alex Bennée
2019-10-25 18:17       ` no-reply
2019-10-25 18:20       ` no-reply
2019-10-24 17:43 ` [PATCH] Semihost SYS_READC implementation (v3) no-reply

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