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From: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
To: G 3 <programmingkidx@gmail.com>
Cc: "list@suse.de:PowerPC list:PowerPC" <qemu-ppc@nongnu.org>,
	qemu-devel qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] How to add my implementation of the fmadds instruction to QEMU
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 08:21:08 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFEAcA8Hg4BrP=CqQLCmyu8ysEADqUoSuhA0_WVM9ch2tb3aHw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <F705365A-5746-44BA-B820-33A4A993EDDD@gmail.com>

On 27 September 2016 at 07:33, G 3 <programmingkidx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Sep 27, 2016, at 7:43 AM, Peter Maydell wrote:
>> In particular, for fmadds, it is important that there
>> is no intermediate rounding done between the multiply
>> and the addition. This means that you need to effectively
>> do the multiply and the addition at a higher precision than
>> the input arguments, so simple multiplication and addition
>> of floats will give you wrong answers.
>
>
> It sounds like I should change my argument types to double.

That will fix only a very tiny part of the problem.
You will also need to get right floating point exception flags,
handling of subnormal numbers, and various other implementation
specifics of IEEE.

> I still want to try implementing this function. I'm thinking
> rewriting the helper_fmadd() function in target-ppc/fpu_helper.c.
> Does that sound correct?

That's the place that would need to be reimplemented.
I recommend doing very thorough testing by feeding the
instruction a lot of randomly selected input values and
comparing the output value and the output floating point
status/exception flags against the current implementation
and/or real hardware.

I really think you'll find that this is just impossible
to implement correctly with the host compiler's floating
point C expressions, though.

thanks
-- PMM

  reply	other threads:[~2016-09-27 15:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-09-27  1:05 [Qemu-devel] How to add my implementation of the fmadds instruction to QEMU G 3
2016-09-27  3:41 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] " David Gibson
2016-09-27 11:43 ` [Qemu-devel] " Peter Maydell
2016-09-27 14:33   ` G 3
2016-09-27 15:21     ` Peter Maydell [this message]
2016-09-27 16:16     ` Eric Blake
2016-09-27 16:51       ` G 3
2016-09-27 16:58         ` Peter Maydell
2016-09-29  4:17           ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] " David Gibson
2016-09-29 15:20             ` Programmingkid
2016-09-29 18:19               ` Alex Bennée
2016-09-29 21:52                 ` Programmingkid
2016-09-29 22:36                   ` Alex Bennée
2016-09-29 22:39                     ` Programmingkid
2016-09-29 15:41             ` Peter Maydell
2016-09-29 16:55               ` Programmingkid
2016-09-30  0:39                 ` David Gibson
2016-09-30  0:44                   ` Programmingkid

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