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From: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: "Paul Burton" <pburton@wavecomp.com>,
	"Alistair Francis" <alistair@alistair23.me>,
	"Eduardo Habkost" <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
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	"Aleksandar Markovic" <amarkovic@wavecomp.com>,
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	"Edgar E. Iglesias" <edgar.iglesias@gmail.com>,
	"Aleksandar Rikalo" <aleksandar.rikalo@rt-rk.com>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@redhat.com>,
	"Aurelien Jarno" <aurelien@aurel32.net>,
	"Richard Henderson" <rth@twiddle.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/8] Simplify memory_region_add_subregion_overlap(..., priority=0)
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2019 11:46:35 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFEAcA8RLOOT+0Bad4PfU0Jubp9MDOTTt1rHBQYABAfd9oMRLw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191216063529-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>

On Mon, 16 Dec 2019 at 11:40, Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 03:27:12PM +0000, Peter Maydell wrote:
> > On Sun, 15 Dec 2019 at 09:51, Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 04:28:08PM +0000, Peter Maydell wrote:
> > > > (It doesn't actually assert that it doesn't
> > > > overlap because we have some legacy uses, notably
> > > > in the x86 PC machines, which do overlap without using
> > > > the right function, which we've never tried to tidy up.)
> > >
> > > It's not exactly legacy uses.
> > >
> > > To be more exact, the way the non overlap versions
> > > are *used* is to mean "I don't care what happens when they overlap"
> > > as opposed to "will never overlap".
> >
> > Almost all of the use of the non-overlap versions is
> > for "these are never going to overlap" -- devices or ram at
> > fixed addresses in the address space that can't
> > ever be mapped over by anything else. If you want
> > "can overlap but I don't care which one wins" then
> > that would be more clearly expressed by using the _overlap()
> > version but just giving everything that can overlap there
> > the same priority.
>
> Problem is device doesn't always know whether something can overlap it.
> Imagine device A at a fixed address.
> Guest can program device B to overlap the fixed address.
> How is device A supposed to know this can happen?

That's why (the original intention was) only one of the
regions needs to be marked 'overlap OK', not both.

thanks
-- PMM


      reply	other threads:[~2019-12-16 11:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-12-14 15:56 [PATCH 0/8] Simplify memory_region_add_subregion_overlap(..., priority=0) Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-12-14 15:56 ` [PATCH 1/8] hw/arm/nrf51_soc: Use memory_region_add_subregion() when priority is 0 Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-12-14 15:56 ` [PATCH 2/8] hw/arm/raspi: " Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-12-14 15:56 ` [PATCH 3/8] hw/arm/xlnx-versal: " Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-12-14 15:56 ` [PATCH 4/8] hw/i386/intel_iommu: Use memory_region_add_subregion " Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-12-14 15:56 ` [PATCH 5/8] hw/mips/boston: Use memory_region_add_subregion() " Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-12-14 15:56 ` [PATCH 6/8] hw/vfio/pci: " Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-12-14 15:56 ` [PATCH 7/8] target/i386: " Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-12-14 15:56 ` [PATCH 8/8] target/i386/cpu: Use 'mr' for MemoryRegion variables Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-12-14 16:28 ` [PATCH 0/8] Simplify memory_region_add_subregion_overlap(..., priority=0) Peter Maydell
2019-12-14 18:17   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-12-14 20:01     ` Peter Maydell
2019-12-15  9:54       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-12-15  9:51   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-12-15 15:27     ` Peter Maydell
2019-12-16 11:39       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-12-16 11:46         ` Peter Maydell [this message]

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