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From: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
To: Andrew Baumann <Andrew.Baumann@microsoft.com>
Cc: "Rob Herring" <robh@kernel.org>,
	"Grégory ESTRADE" <gregory.estrade@gmail.com>,
	"Stefan Weil" <sw@weilnetz.de>,
	"Peter Crosthwaite" <crosthwaite.peter@gmail.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org Developers" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Peter Crosthwaite" <crosthwaitepeter@gmail.com>,
	qemu-arm <qemu-arm@nongnu.org>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 4/8] bcm2835_peripherals: add rollup device for bcm2835 peripherals
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 19:40:53 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFEAcA9WBwOVLmU9FYsuBGXqLdty3MAjnCcpwr96-2XSiWiptQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BLUPR0301MB20347E506B5172A98D5377229ED80@BLUPR0301MB2034.namprd03.prod.outlook.com>

On 26 January 2016 at 19:12, Andrew Baumann
<Andrew.Baumann@microsoft.com> wrote:
>> From: Peter Crosthwaite [mailto:crosthwaitepeter@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, 26 January 2016 00:03
>> On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 10:23 PM, Andrew Baumann
>> <Andrew.Baumann@microsoft.com> wrote:
>> >> > +    /* Memory region for peripheral devices, which we export to our
>> >> parent */
>> >> > +    memory_region_init_io(&s->peri_mr, obj, NULL, s, "bcm2835-
>> >> peripherals",
>> >> > +                          0x1000000);
>> >>
>> >> Should this just be normal memory_region_init?
>> >
>> > I think so -- it's just a container region, and I probably copy and pasted the
>> API here. The two MR init APIs seem almost but not-quite identical when
>> NULL callbacks are used. Can you briefly explain the difference?

NULL callbacks are the same thing as memory_region_init_reservation(),
which is for defining a "you can't get here" part of the address space.
This is used only when KVM is enabled, by devices whose real implementation
of a bit of memory mapped IO is in the host kernel. The host kernel will
intercept accesses to that region and QEMU never sees accesses to them
(exception: emulated DMA, which is the only reason there's a behaviour
at all rather than an assertion). This is why such regions get marked as
mr->terminates: they really do have no "holes" in them.

So the general rules are:
 * use a plain container (created via memory_region_init())
   for almost any situation where you're creating something whose
   behaviour is built up by adding together subregions
 * use memory_region_init_io() with non-NULL ops for creating straightforward
   "leaf" regions which have defined device behaviour
 * similarly, memory_region_init_ram() for ram, etc
 * use memory_region_init_reservation() or memory_region_init_io() with a
   NULL ops pointer if you're the QEMU part of a KVM in-kernel
   irqchip/etc.
 * If you have a container memory region, but you need a "behaviour for
   the bits that aren't covered by specific subregions" that's specific to
   this device, then you have two choices:
   (a) use a "background" subregion that covers the whole space and
       has a lower priority than any of the other subregions
   (b) create your container with one of the other memory_region_init
       functions and use the IO callbacks/ram/etc to define the background
       behaviour. Such an object will still support subregions being added.
   I think (a) is generally cleaner, but the API permits adding
   subregions to MRs other than pure containers for the benefit of
   the odd few cases where (b) is done.

docs/memory.txt could probably use an update to:
(a) specifically mention the functions to use to create the various
regions listed in the 'Types of regions' section
(b) describe the 'reservation' kind of memory region

thanks
-- PMM

  reply	other threads:[~2016-01-26 19:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-15 23:58 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 0/8] Raspberry Pi 2 support Andrew Baumann
2016-01-15 23:58 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 1/8] bcm2835_mbox: add BCM2835 mailboxes Andrew Baumann
2016-01-26  5:54   ` Peter Crosthwaite
2016-01-15 23:58 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 2/8] bcm2835_property: add bcm2835 property channel Andrew Baumann
2016-01-26  6:03   ` Peter Crosthwaite
2016-01-15 23:58 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 3/8] bcm2835_ic: add bcm2835 interrupt controller Andrew Baumann
2016-01-15 23:58 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 4/8] bcm2835_peripherals: add rollup device for bcm2835 peripherals Andrew Baumann
2016-01-26  6:14   ` Peter Crosthwaite
2016-01-26  6:23     ` Andrew Baumann
2016-01-26  8:03       ` Peter Crosthwaite
2016-01-26 19:12         ` Andrew Baumann
2016-01-26 19:40           ` Peter Maydell [this message]
2016-01-15 23:58 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 5/8] bcm2836_control: add bcm2836 ARM control logic Andrew Baumann
2016-01-29  4:37   ` Peter Crosthwaite
2016-01-29  4:42     ` Andrew Baumann
2016-01-15 23:58 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 6/8] bcm2836: add bcm2836 soc device Andrew Baumann
2016-01-29  4:50   ` Peter Crosthwaite
2016-01-15 23:58 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 7/8] arm/boot: move highbank secure board setup code to common routine Andrew Baumann
2016-01-29  7:11   ` Peter Crosthwaite
     [not found] ` <1452902337-13844-9-git-send-email-Andrew.Baumann@microsoft.com>
2016-01-29  7:31   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 8/8] raspi: add raspberry pi 2 machine Peter Crosthwaite
2016-01-29 21:50     ` Andrew Baumann
2016-01-29 22:22       ` Peter Crosthwaite
2016-01-29 22:28         ` Andrew Baumann
2016-01-29 22:40           ` Peter Crosthwaite
2016-01-29 22:43             ` Andrew Baumann

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