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From: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
To: "Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>
Cc: robert.foley@futurewei.com,
	QEMU Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	peter.puhov@futurewei.com,
	Aaron Lindsay <aaron@os.amperecomputing.com>,
	"Emilio G. Cota" <cota@braap.org>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 17/55] plugins: implement helpers for resolving hwaddr
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2019 17:56:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFEAcA9aCyxJU60wbYd3DXamGQkuuWFM9sVAq9hjmAAQKUNeAA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87lftnmgkg.fsf@linaro.org>

On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 17:34, Alex Bennée <alex.bennee@linaro.org> wrote:
> Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> writes:
> > Apologies for dropping into the middle of this patchset, but
> > this API looks a bit odd. A hwaddr alone isn't a complete
> > definition of an access -- you need an (AddressSpace, hwaddr)
> > tuple for that. So this API looks like it doesn't really cope
> > with things like TrustZone ?
>
> Aren't hwaddr's unique across the bus? Or is this because you would have
> two address buses (secure and non-secure) with different address lines to
> different chips?

Architecturally, there are two completely separate physical
address spaces for Secure and NonSecure.
In actual Arm hardware, what you get is a bus/interconnect
where effectively the 'S/NS' line is an extra address bit.
The interconnect can set things up however it likes, but the
most common setup is "most devices mapped at the same address
in both S and NS", aka "most decode ignores the S/NS signal",
with some "this device is only present in S". There's no inherent
reason you couldn't have "address A is device X in S and device
Y in NS", though.

> But surely we have all the information we need because we've hooked the
> two things that QEMU's softmmu code knows. The mmu_idx and the vaddr
> with which the slow path can figure out what it needs.

I think the slowpath uses the MemTxAttrs rather than the mmu_idx:
iotlb_to_section() calls cpu_asidx_from_attrs() and then pulls the
AddressSpace out of cpu->cpu_ases[].

From the point of view of a plugin, it probably wants
the (hwaddr, MemTxAttrs) for the access.

> > This looks odd to see in the plugin API -- ramaddrs should
> > be a QEMU internal concept, shouldn't they?
>
> Hmm maybe.. I guess it's a special case of device offset. Do you want to
> drop this part for now?

I'd need to go and look at the overall plugin-facing API to
be sure, but in general my expectation would be that the
whole API should be in terms of guest-architectural concepts,
with no QEMU-isms like ramaddrs leaking through.

thanks
-- PMM


  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-14 17:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-14 10:48 [PATCH for 4.2 v5 00/55] Support for TCG plugins Alex Bennée
2019-10-14 10:48 ` [PATCH v5 01/55] trace: expand mem_info:size_shift to 4 bits Alex Bennée
2019-10-14 14:35   ` Richard Henderson
2019-10-14 10:48 ` [PATCH v5 02/55] trace: add mmu_index to mem_info Alex Bennée
2019-10-14 14:53   ` Richard Henderson
2019-10-15 11:15     ` Alex Bennée
2019-10-14 10:48 ` [PATCH v5 03/55] cpu: introduce cpu_in_exclusive_context() Alex Bennée
2019-10-14 10:48 ` [PATCH v5 04/55] translate-all: use cpu_in_exclusive_work_context() in tb_flush Alex Bennée
2019-10-14 10:48 ` [PATCH v5 05/55] docs/devel: add plugins.rst design document Alex Bennée
2019-10-14 10:48 ` [PATCH v5 06/55] configure: add --enable-plugins (MOVE TO END) Alex Bennée
2019-10-14 10:49 ` [PATCH v5 07/55] plugin: add user-facing API Alex Bennée
2019-10-14 10:49 ` [PATCH v5 08/55] plugin: add core code Alex Bennée
2019-10-14 10:49 ` [PATCH v5 09/55] plugin: add implementation of the api Alex Bennée
2019-10-14 10:49 ` [PATCH v5 10/55] queue: add QTAILQ_REMOVE_SEVERAL Alex Bennée
2019-10-14 10:49 ` [PATCH v5 11/55] cputlb: document get_page_addr_code Alex Bennée
2019-10-14 10:49 ` [PATCH v5 12/55] cputlb: introduce get_page_addr_code_hostp Alex Bennée
2019-10-14 10:49 ` [PATCH v5 13/55] tcg: add tcg_gen_st_ptr Alex Bennée
2019-10-14 10:49 ` [PATCH v5 14/55] plugin-gen: add module for TCG-related code Alex Bennée
2019-10-14 15:23   ` Richard Henderson
2019-10-14 10:49 ` [PATCH v5 15/55] atomic_template: add inline trace/plugin helpers Alex Bennée
2019-10-14 10:49 ` [PATCH v5 16/55] tcg: let plugins instrument virtual memory accesses Alex Bennée
2019-10-14 10:49 ` [PATCH v5 17/55] plugins: implement helpers for resolving hwaddr Alex Bennée
2019-10-14 15:45   ` Richard Henderson
2019-10-14 15:54   ` Peter Maydell
2019-10-14 16:34     ` Alex Bennée
2019-10-14 16:56       ` Peter Maydell [this message]
2019-10-14 10:49 ` [PATCH v5 18/55] translate-all: notify plugin code of tb_flush Alex Bennée
2019-10-14 10:49 ` [PATCH v5 19/55] *-user: notify plugin of exit Alex Bennée
2019-10-14 10:49 ` [PATCH v5 20/55] *-user: plugin syscalls Alex Bennée
2019-10-14 10:49 ` [PATCH v5 21/55] cpu: hook plugin vcpu events Alex Bennée
2019-10-14 10:49 ` [PATCH v5 22/55] plugin-gen: add plugin_insn_append Alex Bennée
2019-10-14 10:49 ` [PATCH v5 23/55] translator: add translator_ld{ub,sw,uw,l,q} Alex Bennée
2019-10-14 16:08   ` Richard Henderson
2019-10-14 17:31   ` Peter Maydell
2019-10-15 18:55     ` Alex Bennée
2019-10-15 21:34       ` Alex Bennée
2019-10-15 19:03     ` Alex Bennée
2019-10-14 10:49 ` [PATCH v5 24/55] target/arm: fetch code with translator_ld Alex Bennée
2019-10-14 10:49 ` [PATCH v5 25/55] target/ppc: " Alex Bennée
2019-10-14 10:49 ` [PATCH v5 26/55] target/sh4: " Alex Bennée
2019-10-14 10:49 ` [PATCH v5 27/55] target/i386: " Alex Bennée
2019-10-14 10:49 ` [PATCH v5 28/55] target/hppa: " Alex Bennée
2019-10-14 10:49 ` [PATCH v5 29/55] target/m68k: " Alex Bennée
2019-10-14 10:49 ` [PATCH v5 30/55] target/alpha: " Alex Bennée
2019-10-14 10:49 ` [PATCH v5 31/55] target/riscv: " Alex Bennée
2019-10-14 17:59   ` Alistair Francis
2019-10-18 18:32     ` Palmer Dabbelt
2019-10-14 10:49 ` [PATCH v5 32/55] target/sparc: " Alex Bennée
2019-10-14 10:49 ` [PATCH v5 33/55] target/xtensa: " Alex Bennée
2019-10-14 10:49 ` [PATCH v5 34/55] target/openrisc: " Alex Bennée
2019-10-14 10:49 ` [PATCH v5 35/55] translator: inject instrumentation from plugins Alex Bennée
2019-10-14 10:49 ` [PATCH v5 36/55] plugin: add API symbols to qemu-plugins.symbols Alex Bennée
2019-10-14 16:13   ` Richard Henderson
2019-10-14 10:49 ` [PATCH v5 37/55] vl: support -plugin option Alex Bennée
2019-10-14 10:49 ` [PATCH v5 38/55] linux-user: " Alex Bennée
2019-10-14 10:49 ` [PATCH v5 39/55] tests/plugin: add sample plugins Alex Bennée
2019-10-14 16:14   ` Richard Henderson
2019-10-14 10:49 ` [PATCH v5 40/55] tests/tcg/Makefile.target: fix path to config-host.mak Alex Bennée
2019-10-14 16:15   ` Richard Henderson
2019-10-14 10:49 ` [PATCH v5 41/55] tests/tcg: set QEMU_OPTS for all cris runs Alex Bennée
2019-10-14 16:16   ` Richard Henderson
2019-10-14 10:49 ` [PATCH v5 42/55] tests/tcg: move "virtual" tests to EXTRA_TESTS Alex Bennée
2019-10-14 16:16   ` Richard Henderson
2019-10-14 10:49 ` [PATCH v5 43/55] tests/tcg: drop test-i386-fprem from TESTS when not SLOW Alex Bennée
2019-10-14 16:44   ` Richard Henderson
2019-10-14 10:49 ` [PATCH v5 44/55] tests/tcg: enable plugin testing Alex Bennée
2019-10-14 16:46   ` Richard Henderson
2019-10-14 10:49 ` [PATCH v5 45/55] tests/plugin: add a hotblocks plugin Alex Bennée
2019-10-14 16:49   ` Richard Henderson
2019-10-14 10:49 ` [PATCH v5 46/55] plugin: add qemu_plugin_insn_disas helper Alex Bennée
2019-10-14 10:49 ` [PATCH v5 47/55] tests/plugin: add instruction execution breakdown Alex Bennée
2019-10-14 16:50   ` Richard Henderson
2019-10-14 10:49 ` [PATCH v5 48/55] tests/plugin: add hotpages plugin to breakdown memory access patterns Alex Bennée
2019-10-14 16:51   ` Richard Henderson
2019-10-14 10:49 ` [PATCH v5 49/55] accel/stubs: reduce headers from tcg-stub Alex Bennée
2019-10-14 10:49 ` [PATCH v5 50/55] include/exec: wrap cpu_ldst.h in CONFIG_TCG Alex Bennée
2019-10-14 10:49 ` [PATCH v5 51/55] plugins: expand the plugin_init function to include an info block Alex Bennée
2019-10-14 16:54   ` Richard Henderson
2019-10-14 10:49 ` [PATCH v5 52/55] plugins: make howvec plugin more generic Alex Bennée
2019-10-14 16:59   ` Richard Henderson
2019-10-14 17:14     ` Alex Bennée
2019-10-14 17:39       ` Richard Henderson
2019-10-14 10:49 ` [PATCH v5 53/55] plugins: add sparc64 instruction classification table Alex Bennée
2019-10-14 17:01   ` Richard Henderson
2019-10-15 19:09     ` Alex Bennée
2019-10-15 19:37       ` Richard Henderson
2019-10-14 10:49 ` [PATCH v5 54/55] plugins: add qemu_plugin_outs and use it Alex Bennée
2019-10-14 17:03   ` Richard Henderson
2019-10-14 10:49 ` [PATCH v5 55/55] .travis.yml: add --enable-plugins tests Alex Bennée
2019-10-14 17:04   ` Richard Henderson
2019-10-15  4:36 ` [PATCH for 4.2 v5 00/55] Support for TCG plugins no-reply

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