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From: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Cc: Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>,
	Laurent Vivier <lvivier@redhat.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	qemu-arm <qemu-arm@nongnu.org>,
	Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
	QEMU Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] hw/arm/bcm283x: Fix crash with device_add bcm2837 on unsupported machines
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 17:22:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFEAcA9g0Vu-cF50maC2cVrSffZA5F6AsoM5pz2XT09YKG4WHg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87muuwo2dz.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org>

On 12 July 2018 at 17:16, Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com> wrote:
> Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com> writes:
>
>> On 12.07.2018 14:06, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>>> Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> writes:
>>>
>>>> On 11 July 2018 at 17:12, Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 09:21:48AM +0200, Thomas Huth wrote:
>>>>>> Hm, ok, so how to continue here now? Shall we at least mark the
>>>>>> bcm2836/7 devices with user_creatable=false, so that users can not crash
>>>>>> their QEMU so easily with device_add? The problem with introspection via
>>>>>> device-list-properties would still continue to exist, but I think that's
>>>>>> less likely used in practice... otherwise we could still move the
>>>>>> qdev_set_parent_bus() calls to the realize() function instead, and just
>>>>>> add a big fat FIXME comment in front of the code block, so that we
>>>>>> remember to clean that up one day...
>>>>>
>>>>> Crashing device-list-properties should be a blocker bug, IMO.
>>>
>>> Seconded.
>>
>> Well, maybe I should then not suggest to add a hmp("info qtree") below
>> the hmp("info qom-tree") in test_one_device() of
>> tests/device-introspect-test.c ... otherwise we'll be quite busy in the
>> next weeks...
>
> If we can't fix these bugs in time, we can bring back
> cannot_destroy_with_object_finalize_yet, as Eduardo mentioned upthread.
> Would be sad, but sad beats crash.

...but are they actually interesting crashes? Nobody is ever
going to actually start emulation of an integratorcp machine and
then try to add a bcm2837 device via the QMP interface, except
if they're deliberately doing exhaustive testing. They're bugs,
sure, but they're not bugs I can ever see any real user possibly
tripping over, so we don't necessarily need to go to any
particular lengths to fix them for 3.0 if that's painful.

thanks
-- PMM

  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-12 16:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-09 21:03 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] hw/arm/bcm283x: Fix crash with device_add bcm2837 on unsupported machines Thomas Huth
2018-07-09 21:31 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-07-09 21:36   ` Thomas Huth
2018-07-09 21:42 ` Peter Maydell
2018-07-09 22:03   ` Thomas Huth
2018-07-10  6:50     ` Peter Maydell
2018-07-11  7:21       ` Thomas Huth
2018-07-11 16:12         ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-07-11 17:15           ` Peter Maydell
2018-07-12 12:06             ` Markus Armbruster
2018-07-12 12:55               ` Peter Maydell
2018-07-12 13:19                 ` Markus Armbruster
2018-07-12 15:25               ` Thomas Huth
2018-07-12 16:16                 ` Markus Armbruster
2018-07-12 16:22                   ` Peter Maydell [this message]
2018-07-12 16:32                     ` Thomas Huth
2018-07-16  6:41                       ` Markus Armbruster
2018-07-11 17:21       ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-07-11 19:04         ` Thomas Huth
2018-07-11 19:59           ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-07-12  8:04             ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-07-12 12:04     ` Markus Armbruster
2018-07-11 17:20 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-07-11 18:30   ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-07-11 20:16     ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-07-11 20:23       ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-07-12  8:05         ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-07-12 18:04           ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-07-16  6:43             ` Markus Armbruster
2018-07-16 14:25               ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-07-11 18:43   ` Thomas Huth
2018-07-11 20:15     ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-07-12  5:57       ` Thomas Huth

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