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From: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
To: Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>
Cc: qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Fabien Chouteau" <chouteau@adacore.com>,
	"<qemu-ppc@nongnu.org>" <qemu-ppc@nongnu.org>,
	"Scott Wood" <scottwood@freescale.com>,
	"Hervé Poussineau" <hpoussin@reactos.org>,
	"Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>,
	"Artyom Tarasenko" <atar4qemu@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/3] PPC PReP: can run without bios image
Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 14:08:02 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFEAcA_9vztG_0UPRb648hDPk5kDcD0HbbX5gOt1-Ur7pyR5QA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2B42F309-792B-4CD6-B2A1-8F82B310E0D8@suse.de>

On 6 April 2013 12:38, Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de> wrote:
>
> On 06.04.2013, at 13:27, Peter Maydell wrote:
>
>> On 6 April 2013 10:07, Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de> wrote:
>>> On ARM, look at highbank. Because we're not running we're lacking
>>> a monitor mode blob that provides sys calls for flushing caches.
>>> Thus today the highbank machine doesn't boot anymore with Linux.
>>> If we ran firmware like the real board, that would provide for the
>>> sys call.
>>
>> We also flat out don't implement enough monitor mode to allow
>> a hypothetical firmware blob to work.
>
> Why don't we implement enough monitor mode?

Because (a) I haven't got round to it (b) doing it properly is
a huge job (c) KVM can't do monitor mode so we need a plan for
a "not really monitor mode" anyway (d) it isn't yet causing
problems on the boards I primarily care about. I'm happy to
review patches if somebody wants to submit them.

> Bottom line is that Linux validly expects that firmware exists.

I agree that we're going to want to run UEFI at some point.
My current plan for this is that we should get a version
of the UEFI firmware which runs in non-secure mode.

-- PMM

  reply	other threads:[~2013-04-06 13:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-03 16:40 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] PPC PReP: Use ElF kernel on PReP Fabien Chouteau
2013-04-03 16:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/3] PPC PReP: Load ELF kernel Fabien Chouteau
2013-04-03 16:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/3] PPC PReP: Use kernel entry to set nip at reset Fabien Chouteau
2013-04-03 16:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/3] PPC PReP: can run without bios image Fabien Chouteau
2013-04-03 16:59   ` Alexander Graf
2013-04-04  8:37     ` Fabien Chouteau
2013-04-04  9:26       ` Alexander Graf
2013-04-04 16:19         ` Fabien Chouteau
2013-04-04  9:46       ` Artyom Tarasenko
2013-04-04  9:50         ` Alexander Graf
2013-04-04  9:57           ` Artyom Tarasenko
2013-04-04 11:53             ` Andreas Färber
2013-04-04 11:59               ` Alexander Graf
2013-04-05 23:00                 ` Scott Wood
2013-04-06  9:01                   ` Alexander Graf
2013-04-08 17:52                     ` Scott Wood
2013-07-04  8:35                       ` Julio Guerra
2013-07-10  9:16                         ` Julio Guerra
2013-04-06  9:07                   ` Alexander Graf
2013-04-06 11:27                     ` Peter Maydell
2013-04-06 11:38                       ` Alexander Graf
2013-04-06 13:08                         ` Peter Maydell [this message]
2013-04-06 20:07                         ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] " Edgar E. Iglesias
2013-04-06 20:12                           ` Alexander Graf
2013-04-07  0:52                             ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2013-04-04 12:43               ` [Qemu-devel] " Peter Maydell
2013-04-04 16:17                 ` Fabien Chouteau
2013-04-04 16:20                   ` Peter Maydell
2013-04-04 16:26                     ` Artyom Tarasenko
2013-04-04 16:30                       ` Peter Maydell
2013-04-04 16:34                         ` Alexander Graf
2013-04-04 16:41                           ` Peter Maydell
2013-04-04 16:51                             ` Alexander Graf
2013-04-04 16:52                               ` Peter Maydell
2013-04-04 22:32                                 ` Alexander Graf
2013-04-04 22:35                                   ` Peter Maydell
2013-04-04 16:46                         ` Artyom Tarasenko
2013-04-04 16:51                           ` Peter Maydell
2013-04-04 17:08                             ` Artyom Tarasenko
2013-04-04 17:22                       ` Andreas Färber
2013-04-05  9:19                         ` Fabien Chouteau
2013-04-05  9:30                           ` Peter Maydell
2013-04-04 17:05                   ` Andreas Färber
2013-04-05  2:32             ` Rob Landley
2013-04-04 11:16       ` Andreas Färber
2013-04-04 16:18         ` Fabien Chouteau
2013-04-03 16:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] PPC PReP: Use ElF kernel on PReP Alexander Graf
2013-04-03 17:32   ` Andreas Färber
2013-04-04  8:17     ` Fabien Chouteau

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