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From: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
To: Akihiko Odaki <akihiko.odaki@gmail.com>
Cc: "Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <f4bug@amsat.org>,
	"Vladislav Yaroshchuk" <yaroshchuk2000@gmail.com>,
	phillip.ennen@gmail.com, "Jason Wang" <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	"Christian Schoenebeck" <qemu_oss@crudebyte.com>,
	"qemu Developers" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Cameron Esfahani" <dirty@apple.com>,
	"Markus Armbruster" <armbru@redhat.com>,
	"Roman Bolshakov" <r.bolshakov@yadro.com>,
	"Alexander Graf" <agraf@csgraf.de>,
	"Gerd Hoffmann" <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	"Howard Spoelstra" <hsp.cat7@gmail.com>,
	"Roman Bolshakov" <roman@roolebo.dev>,
	"Alessio Dionisi" <hello@adns.io>,
	"Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>,
	"Eric Blake" <eblake@redhat.com>,
	"Phillip Tennen" <phillip@axleos.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v13 2/7] net/vmnet: add vmnet backends to qapi/net
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2022 10:32:46 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFEAcA_CT6AJx_ns4zjw1_udq-Ab3YdM2mzPcKKZberUPOqhPA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMVc7JXyFoUCkrGLKhCct_DatwU6Xu+L2XSK5y0YMV8xDHZC+g@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 at 04:14, Akihiko Odaki <akihiko.odaki@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm neutral about the decision. I think QEMU should avoid using
> Objective-C code except for interactions with Apple's APIs, and .c is
> superior in terms of that as it would prevent accidental introduction
> of Objective-C code. On the other hand, naming them .m will allow the
> introduction of Automatic Reference Counting to manage dispatch queue
> objects. In fact, I have found a few memory leaks in vmnet in the last
> review and ui/cocoa.m has a suspicious construction of the object
> management (Particularly it has asynchronous dispatches wrapped with
> NSAutoreleasePool, which does not make sense).

I think those are probably my fault -- in commit 6e657e64cd (in 2013)
we added NSAutoReleasePools to fix leaks that happened because
we were calling into Cocoa APIs from threads other than the UI
thread that didn't have their own automatically created autorelease
pool. Much later in commit 5588840ff778 (in 2019) we put in the
dispatch_async stuff because newer macOS was stricter about
requiring Cocoa API calls to be only on the UI thread. So
I think that means the requirement for the autorelease pools
has now gone away in those functions and we could simply delete
them -- does that sound right? (I freely admit that I'm not a macOS
expert -- I just look stuff up in the documentation; historically
we haven't really had many expert macOS people around to work on
cocoa.m...)

On the subject of cocoa.m, while we have various macOS-interested
people in this thread, can I ask if anybody would like to
review a couple of patches that came in at the beginning of the
year?

https://patchew.org/QEMU/20220102174153.70043-1-carwynellis@gmail.com/
("ui/cocoa: Add option to disable left command and hide cursor on click")
and
https://patchew.org/QEMU/20220103114515.24020-1-carwynellis@gmail.com/
("Show/hide the menu bar in fullscreen on mouse")

either from the point of view of "is this a sensible change to
the macOS UI experience" or for the actual code changes, or both.

We've been very short on upstream macOS code reviewers so if people
interested in that host platform are able to chip in by
reviewing each others' code that helps a lot.

thanks
-- PMM


  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-25 10:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-13 17:22 [PATCH v13 0/7] Add vmnet.framework based network backend Vladislav Yaroshchuk
2022-01-13 17:22 ` [PATCH v13 1/7] net/vmnet: add vmnet dependency and customizable option Vladislav Yaroshchuk
2022-01-20  7:14   ` Roman Bolshakov
2022-01-21 11:58     ` Vladislav Yaroshchuk
2022-01-13 17:22 ` [PATCH v13 2/7] net/vmnet: add vmnet backends to qapi/net Vladislav Yaroshchuk
2022-01-14  8:43   ` Akihiko Odaki
2022-01-15 13:00     ` Vladislav Yaroshchuk
2022-01-18 15:00   ` Markus Armbruster
2022-01-18 16:16     ` Vladislav Yaroshchuk
2022-01-18 16:26       ` Markus Armbruster
2022-01-18 16:46         ` Vladislav Yaroshchuk
2022-01-20  8:32   ` Roman Bolshakov
2022-01-21 12:19     ` Vladislav Yaroshchuk
2022-01-21 13:03       ` Akihiko Odaki
2022-01-28 14:29         ` Vladislav Yaroshchuk
2022-01-28 23:00           ` Akihiko Odaki
2022-01-24  9:56   ` Roman Bolshakov
2022-01-24 11:27     ` Christian Schoenebeck
2022-01-24 17:49       ` Roman Bolshakov
2022-01-24 20:00         ` Christian Schoenebeck
2022-01-24 20:14         ` Peter Maydell
2022-01-24 23:00           ` Roman Bolshakov
2022-01-25  4:14             ` Akihiko Odaki
2022-01-25 10:32               ` Peter Maydell [this message]
2022-01-25 11:08                 ` Akihiko Odaki
2022-01-25 17:30                   ` Christian Schoenebeck
2022-01-29 21:03               ` Roman Bolshakov
2022-01-13 17:22 ` [PATCH v13 3/7] net/vmnet: implement shared mode (vmnet-shared) Vladislav Yaroshchuk
2022-01-14  8:43   ` Akihiko Odaki
2022-01-13 17:22 ` [PATCH v13 4/7] net/vmnet: implement host mode (vmnet-host) Vladislav Yaroshchuk
2022-01-13 17:22 ` [PATCH v13 5/7] net/vmnet: implement bridged mode (vmnet-bridged) Vladislav Yaroshchuk
2022-01-14  8:43   ` Akihiko Odaki
2022-01-13 17:22 ` [PATCH v13 6/7] net/vmnet: update qemu-options.hx Vladislav Yaroshchuk
2022-01-14  8:43   ` Akihiko Odaki
2022-01-13 17:22 ` [PATCH v13 7/7] net/vmnet: update MAINTAINERS list Vladislav Yaroshchuk

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