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From: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
To: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
Cc: QEMU Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
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Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC 03/19] sysbus: Set user_creatable=false by default on TYPE_SYS_BUS_DEVICE
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2017 20:49:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFEAcA_uRHZR0N-=h=eWsDKjZpN4csua1j++wLVfZbsNVpaH5Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170401004624.30886-4-ehabkost@redhat.com>

On 1 April 2017 at 01:46, Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com> wrote:
> commit 33cd52b5d7b9adfd009e95f07e6c64dd88ae2a31 unset
> cannot_instantiate_with_device_add_yet in TYPE_SYSBUS, making
> all kinds of untested devices available to -device and
> device_add.
>
> The problem with that is: setting has_dynamic_sysbus on a
> machine-type lets it accept all the 288 sysbus device types we
> have in QEMU, and most of them were never meant to be used with
> -device. That's a lot of untested code.
>
> Fortunately today we have just a few has_dynamic_sysbus=1
> machines: virt, pc-q35-*, ppce500, and spapr.
>
> virt, ppce500, and spapr have extra checks to ensure just a few
> device types can be instantiated:
>
> * virt supports only TYPE_VFIO_CALXEDA_XGMAC, TYPE_VFIO_AMD_XGBE.
> * ppce500 supports only TYPE_ETSEC_COMMON.
> * spapr supports only TYPE_SPAPR_PCI_HOST_BRIDGE.
>
> q35 has no code to block unsupported sysbus devices, however, and
> accepts all device types. Fortunately, only the following 20
> device types are compiled into the qemu-system-x86_64 and
> qemu-system-i386 binaries:
>
> * allwinner-ahci
> * amd-iommu
> * cfi.pflash01
> * esp
> * fw_cfg_io
> * fw_cfg_mem
> * generic-sdhci
> * hpet
> * intel-iommu
> * ioapic
> * isabus-bridge
> * kvmclock
> * kvm-ioapic
> * kvmvapic
> * SUNW,fdtwo
> * sysbus-ahci
> * sysbus-fdc
> * sysbus-ohci
> * unimplemented-device
> * virtio-mmio
>
> Instead of requiring each machine-type with has_dynamic_sysbus=1
> to implement its own mechanism to block unsupported devices, we
> can use the user_creatable flag to ensure we won't let the user
> plug anything that will never work.

How does this work? Which devices can be dynamically
plugged is machine dependent. You can't dynamically-plug
an intel-iommu on the ARM virt board, and you can't
dynamically-plug the vfio-calxeda-xgmac on the spapr
board, and so on. So I don't see how we can just have
a flag on the device itself that controls whether
it can be dynamically plugged.

So I'm definitely coming around to the opinion that
it's just a bug in the q35 board that it doesn't have
any device whitelisting, and we should fix that.

thanks
-- PMM

  reply	other threads:[~2017-04-03 19:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-01  0:46 [Qemu-devel] [RFC 00/19] sysbus: Don't allow -device/device_add by default Eduardo Habkost
2017-04-01  0:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 01/19] qdev: Replace cannot_instantiate_with_device_add_yet with !user_creatable Eduardo Habkost
2017-04-03 17:16   ` Alistair Francis
2017-04-01  0:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 02/19] s390: Add FIXME for unexplained user_creatable=false line Eduardo Habkost
2017-04-03  8:55   ` Cornelia Huck
2017-04-03 19:20     ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-04-04  6:46       ` Cornelia Huck
2017-04-01  0:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 03/19] sysbus: Set user_creatable=false by default on TYPE_SYS_BUS_DEVICE Eduardo Habkost
2017-04-03 19:49   ` Peter Maydell [this message]
2017-04-03 20:10     ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-04-03 20:15       ` Alexander Graf
2017-04-03 21:00         ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-04-04  6:53           ` Alexander Graf
2017-04-04  6:58             ` Thomas Huth
2017-04-04  7:02               ` Alexander Graf
2017-04-04 12:59                 ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-04-04 13:06                   ` Alexander Graf
2017-04-04 14:44                     ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-04-04 13:05             ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-04-01  0:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 04/19] fdc: Remove user_creatable flag from sysbus-fdc & SUNW, fdtwo Eduardo Habkost
2017-04-01  0:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 05/19] pflash_cfi01: Remove user_creatable flag Eduardo Habkost
2017-04-03 12:43   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2017-04-03 15:45   ` Laszlo Ersek
2017-04-01  0:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 06/19] iommu: Remove FIXME comment about user_creatable=true Eduardo Habkost
2017-04-01  0:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 07/19] kvmclock: Remove user_creatable flag Eduardo Habkost
2017-04-01  0:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 08/19] ioapic: " Eduardo Habkost
2017-04-01  0:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 09/19] kvmvapic: " Eduardo Habkost
2017-04-01  0:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 10/19] sysbus-ahci: " Eduardo Habkost
2017-04-03 17:19   ` Alistair Francis
2017-04-01  0:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 11/19] allwinner-ahci: " Eduardo Habkost
2017-04-01  0:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 12/19] isabus-bridge: " Eduardo Habkost
2017-04-01  0:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 13/19] unimplemented-device: " Eduardo Habkost
2017-04-03 12:44   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2017-04-03 12:57   ` Peter Maydell
2017-04-03 13:34     ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-04-03 13:38       ` Peter Maydell
2017-04-03 13:54         ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-04-03 14:08           ` Peter Maydell
2017-04-03 18:30             ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-04-03 19:42               ` Peter Maydell
2017-04-03 20:05                 ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-04-04  7:05                   ` Thomas Huth
2017-04-04  7:12                     ` Alexander Graf
2017-04-04 13:12                       ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-04-01  0:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 14/19] fw_cfg: " Eduardo Habkost
2017-04-03 15:46   ` Laszlo Ersek
2017-04-01  0:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 15/19] esp: " Eduardo Habkost
2017-04-01  0:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 16/19] generic-sdhci: " Eduardo Habkost
2017-04-03 17:20   ` Alistair Francis
2017-04-01  0:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 17/19] hpet: " Eduardo Habkost
2017-04-01  0:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 18/19] sysbus-ohci: " Eduardo Habkost
2017-04-01  0:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 19/19] virtio-mmio: " Eduardo Habkost
2017-04-03 15:50   ` Laszlo Ersek
2017-04-04 19:35     ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-04-05  8:30       ` Laszlo Ersek

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