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From: John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	 Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
	Michael Roth <michael.roth@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] Python: bump minimum sphinx version to 3.4.3
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2024 11:24:57 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFn=p-atW1AiW8gX6nUm0DzhG4Qrf8A++vArJQhyUo2bTyPqtg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABgObfZik_bKuZffohNO1fMss+81kTzaHPEHSPu6H2MCoJVZ=w@mail.gmail.com>

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On Wed, Jul 3, 2024 at 8:12 AM Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 3, 2024 at 2:06 PM John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 3, 2024, 4:00 AM Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> wrote:
> >> On 7/2/24 21:59, John Snow wrote:
> >> > With RHEL 8 support retired (It's been two years today since RHEL 9
> >> > came out), our very oldest build platform version of Sphinx is now
> >> > 3.4.3; and keeping backwards compatibility for versions as old as v1.6
> >> > when using domain extensions is a lot of work we don't need to do.
> >>
> >> Technically that's unrelated: thanks to your venv work, :) builds on
> >> RHEL 8 / CentOS Stream 8 do not pick the platform Sphinx, because it
> >> runs under Python 3.6.  Therefore the version included in RHEL 8 does
> >> not matter for picking the minimum supported Sphinx version.
> >
> > I think I can't mandate 4.x because of RHEL 9 builds though, and offline
> requirements.
>
> Offline requirements are not a problem; on RHEL 8 you just have to
> install with pip in order to build docs offline. But yes, RHEL 9 is
> still using platform Python and therefore 3.4.3 remains the limit even
> after we stop supporting bullseye.
>

To be clear I mean offline, isolated RPM builds under RHEL9 where I don't
think we can utilize PyPI at all; and vendoring Sphinx is I think not a
practical option due to the number of dependencies and non-pure Python deps.

It's not a problem for developer workflow, just downstream packaging.

Luckily OpenSUSE offers newer Sphinx, but RHEL doesn't yet. Maybe that can
be rectified eventually - possibly after 3.8 is EOL and there is increased
demand for newer Python packages to be made available in RHEL... but not
yet, today.


>
> Paolo
>
>
Thanks for the ack O:-)

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-07-03 15:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-07-02 19:59 [PATCH 0/2] docs/python: bump minimum Sphinx version John Snow
2024-07-02 19:59 ` [PATCH 1/2] Python: bump minimum sphinx version to 3.4.3 John Snow
2024-07-03  8:00   ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-07-03 12:06     ` John Snow
2024-07-03 12:12       ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-07-03 15:24         ` John Snow [this message]
2024-07-03 16:07           ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-07-02 19:59 ` [PATCH 2/2] docs: remove Sphinx 1.x compatibility code John Snow
2024-07-02 20:01 ` [PATCH 0/2] docs/python: bump minimum Sphinx version John Snow
2024-07-03  5:13   ` Markus Armbruster

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