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From: John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	 Michael Roth <michael.roth@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 03/19] qapi/schema: name QAPISchemaInclude entities
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2023 19:45:55 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFn=p-bc2R+=jy1J18d=eeHwo6XFjAeFaNcpdTAZcU9YbvxVVg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87o7fmw2kp.fsf@pond.sub.org>

On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 4:38 AM Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com> writes:
>
> > On Tue, Nov 21, 2023, 8:33 AM Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> >> John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com> writes:
> >>
> >> > It simplifies typing to mandate that entities will always have a name;
> >> > to achieve this we can occasionally assign an internal name. This
> >> > alleviates errors such as:
> >> >
> >> > qapi/schema.py:287: error: Argument 1 to "__init__" of
> >> > "QAPISchemaEntity" has incompatible type "None"; expected "str"
> >> > [arg-type]
> >> >
> >> > Trying to fix it the other way by allowing entities to only have
> >> > optional names opens up a nightmare portal of whackamole to try and
> >> > audit that every other pathway doesn't actually pass a None name when we
> >> > expect it to; this is the simpler direction of consitifying the typing.
> >>
> >> Arguably, that nightmare is compile-time proof of "we are not mistaking
> >> QAPISchemaInclude for a named entity".
> >>
> >> When I added the include directive, I shoehorned it into the existing
> >> representation of the QAPI schema as "list of QAPISchemaEntity" by
> >> making it a subtype of QAPISchemaEntity.  That was a somewhat lazy hack.
> >>
> >> Note that qapi-code-gen.rst distinguishes between definitions and
> >> directives.
> >>
> >> The places where mypy gripes that .name isn't 'str' generally want
> >> something with a name (what qapi-code-gen.rst calls a definition).  If
> >> we somehow pass them an include directive, they'll use None for a name,
> >> which is no good.  mypy is pointing out this problem.
> >>
> >> What to do about it?
> >>
> >> 1. Paper it over: give include directives some made-up name (this
> >> patch).  Now the places use the made-up name instead of None, and mypy
> >> can't see the problem anymore.
> >>
> >> 2. Assert .name is not None until mypy is happy.  I guess that's what
> >> you called opening "a nightmare portal of whackamole".
> >>
> >
> > Yep.
> >
> >
> >> 3. Clean up the typing: have a type for top-level expression (has no
> >> name), and a subtype for definition (has a name).  Rough sketch
> >> appended.  Thoughts?
> >>
> >
> > Oh, that'll work. I tried to keep to "minimal SLOC" but where you want to
> > see deeper fixes, I'm happy to deviate. I'll give it a shot.
>
> I do appreciate the minimal fix!  I *like* exploring "minimal" first.
> In this case, the exploration led me to not like my lazy hack anymore :)
>
> [...]
>
> > I'll try the refactor out in a patch at the end of my series and see how
> > feasible it is.
> >
> > (I haven't reviewed it deeply yet, so if there's an obvious problem I'll
> > find it when I go to implement this. conceptually it seems fine.)
>
> Thanks!
>

Got this working with minor changes to sphinx's qapidox extension,
which isn't typechecked so it escaped notice. I'm going to continue
working through your feedback as-is, then when I get to the end of the
series, I'll attempt to float this patch forward to replace this patch
under discussion.

Thanks!

--js



  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-13  0:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-16  1:43 [PATCH 00/19] qapi: statically type schema.py John Snow
2023-11-16  1:43 ` [PATCH 01/19] qapi/schema: fix QAPISchemaEntity.__repr__() John Snow
2023-11-16  7:01   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-11-16  1:43 ` [PATCH 02/19] qapi/schema: add pylint suppressions John Snow
2023-11-21 12:23   ` Markus Armbruster
2023-11-16  1:43 ` [PATCH 03/19] qapi/schema: name QAPISchemaInclude entities John Snow
2023-11-21 13:33   ` Markus Armbruster
2023-11-21 16:22     ` John Snow
2023-11-22  9:37       ` Markus Armbruster
2023-12-13  0:45         ` John Snow [this message]
2023-11-16  1:43 ` [PATCH 04/19] qapi/schema: declare type for QAPISchemaObjectTypeMember.type John Snow
2023-11-16  1:43 ` [PATCH 05/19] qapi/schema: make c_type() and json_type() abstract methods John Snow
2023-11-16  7:03   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-11-21 13:36   ` Markus Armbruster
2023-11-21 13:43     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-11-21 16:28       ` John Snow
2023-11-21 16:34         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-11-22  9:50           ` Markus Armbruster
2023-11-22  9:54             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-11-16  1:43 ` [PATCH 06/19] qapi/schema: adjust type narrowing for mypy's benefit John Snow
2023-11-16  7:04   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-11-21 14:09   ` Markus Armbruster
2023-11-21 16:36     ` John Snow
2023-11-22 12:00       ` Markus Armbruster
2023-11-22 18:12         ` John Snow
2023-11-23 11:00           ` Markus Armbruster
2023-11-16  1:43 ` [PATCH 07/19] qapi/introspect: assert schema.lookup_type did not fail John Snow
2023-11-21 14:17   ` Markus Armbruster
2023-11-21 16:41     ` John Snow
2023-11-22  9:52       ` Markus Armbruster
2023-11-16  1:43 ` [PATCH 08/19] qapi/schema: add static typing and assertions to lookup_type() John Snow
2023-11-21 14:21   ` Markus Armbruster
2023-11-21 16:46     ` John Snow
2023-11-22 12:09       ` Markus Armbruster
2023-11-22 15:55         ` John Snow
2023-11-23 11:04           ` Markus Armbruster
2023-11-16  1:43 ` [PATCH 09/19] qapi/schema: assert info is present when necessary John Snow
2023-11-16  7:05   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-11-16  1:43 ` [PATCH 10/19] qapi/schema: make QAPISchemaArrayType.element_type non-Optional John Snow
2023-11-21 14:27   ` Markus Armbruster
2023-11-21 16:51     ` John Snow
2023-11-16  1:43 ` [PATCH 11/19] qapi/schema: fix QAPISchemaArrayType.check's call to resolve_type John Snow
2023-11-22 12:59   ` Markus Armbruster
2023-11-22 15:58     ` John Snow
2023-11-23 13:03       ` Markus Armbruster
2024-01-10 19:33         ` John Snow
2024-01-11  9:33           ` Markus Armbruster
2024-01-11 22:24             ` John Snow
2023-11-16  1:43 ` [PATCH 12/19] qapi/schema: split "checked" field into "checking" and "checked" John Snow
2023-11-22 14:02   ` Markus Armbruster
2024-01-10 20:21     ` John Snow
2024-01-11  9:24       ` Markus Armbruster
2023-11-16  1:43 ` [PATCH 13/19] qapi/schema: fix typing for QAPISchemaVariants.tag_member John Snow
2023-11-22 14:05   ` Markus Armbruster
2023-11-22 16:02     ` John Snow
2024-01-10  1:47       ` John Snow
2024-01-10  7:52         ` Markus Armbruster
2024-01-10  8:35           ` John Snow
2024-01-17  8:19             ` Markus Armbruster
2024-01-17 10:32               ` Markus Armbruster
2024-01-17 10:53                 ` Markus Armbruster
2024-02-01 20:54                   ` John Snow
2023-11-16  1:43 ` [PATCH 14/19] qapi/schema: assert QAPISchemaVariants are QAPISchemaObjectType John Snow
2023-11-23 13:51   ` Markus Armbruster
2024-01-10  0:42     ` John Snow
2023-11-16  1:43 ` [PATCH 15/19] qapi/parser: demote QAPIExpression to Dict[str, Any] John Snow
2023-11-23 14:12   ` Markus Armbruster
2024-01-10  0:14     ` John Snow
2024-01-10  7:58       ` Markus Armbruster
2023-11-16  1:43 ` [PATCH 16/19] qapi/schema: add type hints John Snow
2023-11-24 15:02   ` Markus Armbruster
2023-11-16  1:43 ` [PATCH 17/19] qapi/schema: turn on mypy strictness John Snow
2023-11-16  1:43 ` [PATCH 18/19] qapi/schema: remove unnecessary asserts John Snow
2023-11-28  9:22   ` Markus Armbruster
2023-11-16  1:43 ` [PATCH 19/19] qapi/schema: refactor entity lookup helpers John Snow
2023-11-28 12:06   ` Markus Armbruster

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