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X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: qemu-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: "aleksandar.rikalo@syrmia.com" , "qemu-devel@nongnu.org" , Paul Burton Errors-To: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org Sender: "Qemu-devel" --0000000000001bdddd05a968182e Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wednesday, July 1, 2020, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > Hi Aleksandar, > > I know you have sent a v3 of this patch in the meantime, but I would > still like to comment on it. > > First of all I confirm, that I do not have time to contribute to QEMU > anymore and that I said I would like to resign from QEMU maintainership. > We discussed that in person in Lyon back in October. I am happy to see > that people are interested to take the maintainership. > > It happens that I known Huacai Chen from the time he was upstreaming the > Loongson 3 support to the kernel, I have been testing and reviewing his > patches. I also know Jiaxun Yang from the #debian-mips IRC channel. I > know that they are both very competent and have a good knowledge of the > open source world. I therefore agree that they are good additions to > maintain and/or review the MIPS part of QEMU. > > All that said, they have been contributing only relatively recently to > QEMU, and only to some areas. While I do support adding them to those > areas, I wonder for example why adding them to the MIPS TCG target or > to the Jazz board. That's probably something that should be done in a > second step if they have an interest in doing so. > > I am fully aware that you posted a v3, that fixes exactly that after you > got pointed out. However, I am still concerned by the way things > happened. > > Sure, I understand your point. I am glad you respond in a reasonable, civilized, way, about a reasonable topic, and I find talking to you a very pleasant experience - even if we disagree, it doesn't make a difference at all. The point of the segments you described is: You have to throw somebody in unkown water, on purpose, in order to teach him how to swim in the best way, and get out of him the best, his best. That is all what I meant. No ulterior motive whatsoever. Somebody like it, somebody does not. Huacai doesn't, and I respect it, as shown in v3. If you were here, all will be easier - we could talk, consult each other, advice each other. I would enjoy working with you. I have also strong feeling we would find common interest outside technical world, probably in various intelectual realms. Perhaps this is not known to you, but french thinkers are much appreciated and understood here in Serbia. We are frankofilles. But you choose not to be here. And what can I do? I can't force you to be somewhere you don't want to be. I felt the loss of you not being here throughout all my online presence. Mixed feelings, ha? Truly yours, Aleksandar > Regards, > Aurelien > > > On 2020-06-30 18:46, Aleksandar Markovic wrote: > > Paul Burton and Aurelien Jarno removed for not being present. > > > > Huacai Chen and Jiaxun Yang step in as new energy. > > > > CC: Paul Burton > > CC: Aurelien Jarno > > Signed-off-by: Aleksandar Markovic > > --- > > MAINTAINERS | 15 ++++++++++----- > > 1 file changed, 10 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-) > > > > diff --git a/MAINTAINERS b/MAINTAINERS > > index 5d8acf8d31..7fc16e21c9 100644 > > --- a/MAINTAINERS > > +++ b/MAINTAINERS > > @@ -213,7 +213,8 @@ F: disas/microblaze.c > > > > MIPS TCG CPUs > > M: Aleksandar Markovic > > -R: Aurelien Jarno > > +M: Huacai Chen > > +R: Jiaxun Yang > > R: Aleksandar Rikalo > > S: Maintained > > F: target/mips/ > > @@ -377,6 +378,7 @@ F: target/arm/kvm.c > > > > MIPS KVM CPUs > > M: Aleksandar Markovic > > +M: Huacai Chen > > S: Odd Fixes > > F: target/mips/kvm.c > > > > @@ -1052,6 +1054,7 @@ MIPS Machines > > ------------- > > Jazz > > M: Herv=C3=A9 Poussineau > > +M: Huacai Chen > > R: Aleksandar Rikalo > > S: Maintained > > F: hw/mips/jazz.c > > @@ -1060,8 +1063,8 @@ F: hw/dma/rc4030.c > > > > Malta > > M: Aleksandar Markovic > > +M: Huacai Chen > > M: Philippe Mathieu-Daud=C3=A9 > > -R: Aurelien Jarno > > S: Maintained > > F: hw/isa/piix4.c > > F: hw/acpi/piix4.c > > @@ -1073,6 +1076,7 @@ F: tests/acceptance/machine_mips_malta.py > > > > Mipssim > > M: Aleksandar Markovic > > +M: Huacai Chen > > R: Aleksandar Rikalo > > S: Odd Fixes > > F: hw/mips/mipssim.c > > @@ -1080,7 +1084,6 @@ F: hw/net/mipsnet.c > > > > R4000 > > M: Aleksandar Markovic > > -R: Aurelien Jarno > > R: Aleksandar Rikalo > > S: Obsolete > > F: hw/mips/r4k.c > > @@ -1103,7 +1106,8 @@ S: Maintained > > F: hw/intc/loongson_liointc.c > > > > Boston > > -M: Paul Burton > > +M: Aleksandar Markovic > > +M: Huacai Chen > > R: Aleksandar Rikalo > > S: Maintained > > F: hw/core/loader-fit.c > > @@ -2677,7 +2681,8 @@ F: disas/i386.c > > > > MIPS TCG target > > M: Aleksandar Markovic > > -R: Aurelien Jarno > > +M: Huacai Chen > > +R: Jiaxun Yang > > R: Aleksandar Rikalo > > S: Maintained > > F: tcg/mips/ > > -- > > 2.20.1 > > > > > > > > -- > Aurelien Jarno GPG: 4096R/1DDD8C9B > aurelien@aurel32.net http://www.aurel32.net > --0000000000001bdddd05a968182e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Wednesday, July 1, 2020, Aurelien Jarno <aurelien@aurel32.net> wrote:
Hi Aleksandar,

I know you have sent a v3 of this patch in the meantime, but I would
still like to comment on it.

First of all I confirm, that I do not have time to contribute to QEMU
anymore and that I said I would like to resign from QEMU maintainership. We discussed that in person in Lyon back in October. I am happy to see
that people are interested to take the maintainership.

It happens that I known Huacai Chen from the time he was upstreaming the Loongson 3 support to the kernel, I have been testing and reviewing his
patches. I also know Jiaxun Yang from the #debian-mips IRC channel. I
know that they are both very competent and have a good knowledge of the
open source world. I therefore agree that they are good additions to
maintain and/or review the MIPS part of QEMU.

All that said, they have been contributing only relatively recently to
QEMU, and only to some areas. While I do support adding them to those
areas, I wonder for example why adding them to the MIPS TCG target or
to the Jazz board. That's probably something that should be done in a second step if they have an interest in doing so.

I am fully aware that you posted a v3, that fixes exactly that after you got pointed out. However, I am still concerned by the way things
happened.


Sure, I understand your point.

I am glad you respond in a reasonable, civilized, way, ab= out a reasonable topic, and I find talking to you a very pleasant experienc= e - even if we disagree, it doesn't make a difference at all.

The point of the segments you described is:

<= /div>
You have to throw somebody in unkown water, on purpose, in order = to teach him how to swim in the best way, and get out of him the best, his = best.

That is all what I meant. No ulterior motive= whatsoever.

Somebody like it, somebody does not.<= /div>

Huacai doesn't, and I respect it, as shown in = v3.

If you were here, all will be easier - we coul= d talk, consult each other, advice each other. I would enjoy working with y= ou. I have also strong feeling we would find common interest outside techni= cal world, probably in various intelectual realms. Perhaps this is not know= n to you, but french thinkers are much appreciated and understood here in S= erbia. We are frankofilles.

But you choose not to = be here. And what can I do? I can't force you to be somewhere you don&#= 39;t want to be. I felt the loss of you not being here throughout all my on= line presence.

Mixed feelings, ha?

<= /div>
Truly yours,
Aleksandar


=C2=A0
Regards,
Aurelien


On 2020-06-30 18:46, Aleksandar Markovic wrote:
> Paul Burton and Aurelien Jarno removed for not being present.
>
> Huacai Chen and Jiaxun Yang step in as new energy.
>
> CC: Paul Burton <paulburto= n@kernel.org>
> CC: Aurelien Jarno <aurelie= n@aurel32.net>
> Signed-off-by: Aleksandar Markovic <aleksandar.qemu.devel@gmail.com>
> ---
>=C2=A0 MAINTAINERS | 15 ++++++++++-----
>=C2=A0 1 file changed, 10 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/MAINTAINERS b/MAINTAINERS
> index 5d8acf8d31..7fc16e21c9 100644
> --- a/MAINTAINERS
> +++ b/MAINTAINERS
> @@ -213,7 +213,8 @@ F: disas/microblaze.c
>=C2=A0
>=C2=A0 MIPS TCG CPUs
>=C2=A0 M: Aleksandar Markovic <aleksandar.qemu.devel@gmail.com>
> -R: Aurelien Jarno <aurelie= n@aurel32.net>
> +M: Huacai Chen <chenhc@lemote= .com>
> +R: Jiaxun Yang <jiaxun.= yang@flygoat.com>
>=C2=A0 R: Aleksandar Rikalo <aleksandar.rikalo@syrmia.com>
>=C2=A0 S: Maintained
>=C2=A0 F: target/mips/
> @@ -377,6 +378,7 @@ F: target/arm/kvm.c
>=C2=A0
>=C2=A0 MIPS KVM CPUs
>=C2=A0 M: Aleksandar Markovic <aleksandar.qemu.devel@gmail.com>
> +M: Huacai Chen <chenhc@lemote= .com>
>=C2=A0 S: Odd Fixes
>=C2=A0 F: target/mips/kvm.c
>=C2=A0
> @@ -1052,6 +1054,7 @@ MIPS Machines
>=C2=A0 -------------
>=C2=A0 Jazz
>=C2=A0 M: Herv=C3=A9 Poussineau <hpoussin@reactos.org>
> +M: Huacai Chen <chenhc@lemote= .com>
>=C2=A0 R: Aleksandar Rikalo <aleksandar.rikalo@syrmia.com>
>=C2=A0 S: Maintained
>=C2=A0 F: hw/mips/jazz.c
> @@ -1060,8 +1063,8 @@ F: hw/dma/rc4030.c
>=C2=A0
>=C2=A0 Malta
>=C2=A0 M: Aleksandar Markovic <aleksandar.qemu.devel@gmail.com>
> +M: Huacai Chen <chenhc@lemote= .com>
>=C2=A0 M: Philippe Mathieu-Daud=C3=A9 <f4bug@amsat.org>
> -R: Aurelien Jarno <aurelie= n@aurel32.net>
>=C2=A0 S: Maintained
>=C2=A0 F: hw/isa/piix4.c
>=C2=A0 F: hw/acpi/piix4.c
> @@ -1073,6 +1076,7 @@ F: tests/acceptance/machine_mips_malta.py >=C2=A0
>=C2=A0 Mipssim
>=C2=A0 M: Aleksandar Markovic <aleksandar.qemu.devel@gmail.com>
> +M: Huacai Chen <chenhc@lemote= .com>
>=C2=A0 R: Aleksandar Rikalo <aleksandar.rikalo@syrmia.com>
>=C2=A0 S: Odd Fixes
>=C2=A0 F: hw/mips/mipssim.c
> @@ -1080,7 +1084,6 @@ F: hw/net/mipsnet.c
>=C2=A0
>=C2=A0 R4000
>=C2=A0 M: Aleksandar Markovic <aleksandar.qemu.devel@gmail.com>
> -R: Aurelien Jarno <aurelie= n@aurel32.net>
>=C2=A0 R: Aleksandar Rikalo <aleksandar.rikalo@syrmia.com>
>=C2=A0 S: Obsolete
>=C2=A0 F: hw/mips/r4k.c
> @@ -1103,7 +1106,8 @@ S: Maintained
>=C2=A0 F: hw/intc/loongson_liointc.c
>=C2=A0
>=C2=A0 Boston
> -M: Paul Burton <pburton@wa= vecomp.com>
> +M: Aleksandar Markovic <aleksandar.qemu.devel@gmail.com>
> +M: Huacai Chen <chenhc@lemote= .com>
>=C2=A0 R: Aleksandar Rikalo <aleksandar.rikalo@syrmia.com>
>=C2=A0 S: Maintained
>=C2=A0 F: hw/core/loader-fit.c
> @@ -2677,7 +2681,8 @@ F: disas/i386.c
>=C2=A0
>=C2=A0 MIPS TCG target
>=C2=A0 M: Aleksandar Markovic <aleksandar.qemu.devel@gmail.com>
> -R: Aurelien Jarno <aurelie= n@aurel32.net>
> +M: Huacai Chen <chenhc@lemote= .com>
> +R: Jiaxun Yang <jiaxun.= yang@flygoat.com>
>=C2=A0 R: Aleksandar Rikalo <aleksandar.rikalo@syrmia.com>
>=C2=A0 S: Maintained
>=C2=A0 F: tcg/mips/
> --
> 2.20.1
>
>
>

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aurelien@aurel32.net=C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0http://www.aurel32.net
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