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From: Leonardo Bras Soares Passos <leobras@redhat.com>
To: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Cc: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	"Juan Quintela" <quintela@redhat.com>,
	"Markus Armbruster" <armbru@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	"Eric Blake" <eblake@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 1/5] QIOChannel: Add flags on io_writev and introduce io_flush callback
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2022 15:29:12 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJ6HWG5okFSETnv6ipBqOaq34SgxZAvjUCEGkp_Z_tcjS1Rr+Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YedwO5krFYGoDKCt@xz-m1.local>

On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 10:58 PM Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 05:45:09PM -0300, Leonardo Bras Soares Passos wrote:
> > Hello Peter,
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 3:28 AM Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jan 06, 2022 at 07:13:38PM -0300, Leonardo Bras wrote:
> > > > diff --git a/io/channel.c b/io/channel.c
> > > > index e8b019dc36..904855e16e 100644
> > > > --- a/io/channel.c
> > > > +++ b/io/channel.c
> > > > @@ -67,12 +67,13 @@ ssize_t qio_channel_readv_full(QIOChannel *ioc,
> > > >  }
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -ssize_t qio_channel_writev_full(QIOChannel *ioc,
> > > > -                                const struct iovec *iov,
> > > > -                                size_t niov,
> > > > -                                int *fds,
> > > > -                                size_t nfds,
> > > > -                                Error **errp)
> > > > +ssize_t qio_channel_writev_full_flags(QIOChannel *ioc,
> > > > +                                      const struct iovec *iov,
> > > > +                                      size_t niov,
> > > > +                                      int *fds,
> > > > +                                      size_t nfds,
> > > > +                                      int flags,
> > > > +                                      Error **errp)
> > > >  {
> > > >      QIOChannelClass *klass = QIO_CHANNEL_GET_CLASS(ioc);
> > > >
> > > > @@ -83,7 +84,7 @@ ssize_t qio_channel_writev_full(QIOChannel *ioc,
> > > >          return -1;
> > > >      }
> > >
> > > Should we better also check QIO_CHANNEL_FEATURE_WRITE_ZERO_COPY here when
> > > QIO_CHANNEL_WRITE_FLAG_ZERO_COPY is set?  Just like what we do with:
> >
> > Yes, that's correct.
> > I will also test for fds + zerocopy_flag , which should also fail here.
> >
> > >
> > >     if ((fds || nfds) &&
> > >         !qio_channel_has_feature(ioc, QIO_CHANNEL_FEATURE_FD_PASS)) {
> > >         error_setg_errno(errp, EINVAL,
> > >                          "Channel does not support file descriptor passing");
> > >         return -1;
> > >     }
> > >
> > > I still think it's better to have the caller be crystal clear when to use
> > > zero_copy feature because it has implication on buffer lifetime.
> >
> > I don't disagree with that suggestion.
> >
> > But the buffer lifetime limitation is something on the socket
> > implementation, right?
> > There could be some synchronous zerocopy implementation that does not
> > require flush, and thus
> > don't require the buffer to be treated any special. Or am I missing something?
>
> Currently the flush() is required for zerocopy and not required for all the
> existing non-zerocopy use cases, that's already an API difference so the caller
> needs to identify it anyway.  Then I think it's simpler we expose all of it to
> the user.

Yeah, I agree.
Since one ZC implementation uses flush, all should use them. Even if
it's a no-op.
It was just an observation that not all ZC implementations have buffer
limitations, but I agree the user should expect them anyway, since
they will exist in some implementations.

>
> Not to mention IIUC if we don't fail here, it will just fail later when the
> code will unconditionally convert the flags=ZEROCOPY into MSG_ZEROCOPY in your
> next patch:
>
>     if (flags & QIO_CHANNEL_WRITE_FLAG_ZERO_COPY) {
>         sflags = MSG_ZEROCOPY;
>     }
>

Correct.

> So AFAIU it'll fail anyway, either here with the cap check I mentioned, or
> later in sendmsg().
>
> IOW, I think it fails cleaner here, rather than reaching sendmsg().

I Agree.

>
> >
> > >
> > > I might have commented similar things before, but I have missed a few versions
> > > so I could also have missed some previous discussions..
> > >
> >
> > That's all great suggestions Peter!  Thanks for that!
> >
> > Some of the previous suggestions may have been missed because a lot of
> > code moved.
> > Sorry about that.
>
> Not a problem at all, I just want to make sure my question still makes
> sense. :)

Thanks for asking them!

>
> --
> Peter Xu
>

Best regards,
Leo



  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-19 18:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-06 22:13 [PATCH v7 0/5] MSG_ZEROCOPY + multifd Leonardo Bras
2022-01-06 22:13 ` [PATCH v7 1/5] QIOChannel: Add flags on io_writev and introduce io_flush callback Leonardo Bras
2022-01-13  6:28   ` Peter Xu
2022-01-18 20:45     ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2022-01-19  1:58       ` Peter Xu
2022-01-19 18:29         ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos [this message]
2022-01-13 10:52   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-01-19  4:38     ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2022-01-06 22:13 ` [PATCH v7 2/5] QIOChannelSocket: Implement io_writev zero copy flag & io_flush for CONFIG_LINUX Leonardo Bras
2022-01-13  6:48   ` Peter Xu
2022-01-13 10:06     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-01-13 10:34       ` Peter Xu
2022-01-13 10:42         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-01-13 12:12           ` Peter Xu
2022-01-19 17:23             ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2022-01-19 17:22           ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2022-01-20  1:28             ` Peter Xu
2022-01-19 17:16         ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2022-01-19 17:01     ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2022-02-01  4:23     ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2022-01-13 13:05   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-01-19 17:24     ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2022-01-06 22:13 ` [PATCH v7 3/5] migration: Add zero-copy parameter for QMP/HMP for Linux Leonardo Bras
2022-01-13  7:00   ` Peter Xu
2022-01-19 17:53     ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2022-01-13 13:09   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-01-19 18:03     ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2022-01-19 18:15       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-01-19 18:46         ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2022-02-18 16:31           ` Juan Quintela
2022-02-21 16:23             ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2022-01-06 22:13 ` [PATCH v7 4/5] migration: Add migrate_use_tls() helper Leonardo Bras
2022-01-13  7:02   ` Peter Xu
2022-01-19 18:06     ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2022-01-20  1:37       ` Peter Xu
2022-01-13 13:10   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-01-19 18:07     ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2022-01-06 22:13 ` [PATCH v7 5/5] multifd: Implement zero copy write in multifd migration (multifd-zero-copy) Leonardo Bras
2022-01-13  7:15   ` Peter Xu
2022-01-19 18:23     ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos

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