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From: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>
To: anthony@codemonkey.ws
Cc: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	qemu-trivial@nongnu.org, Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Remove PCI class code from virtio balloon device
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 09:54:20 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJSP0QU4azkZic4GM++uXtj91b_vdXT=TETXTr1AD0qXxii28A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120320004206.GB22089@truffala.fritz.box>

On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 12:42 AM, David Gibson
<david@gibson.dropbear.id.au> wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 11:33:10AM +0000, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
>> On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 03:59:23PM +1100, David Gibson wrote:
>> > Currently the virtio balloon device, when using the virtio-pci interface
>> > advertises itself with PCI class code MEMORY_RAM.  This is wrong; the
>> > balloon is vaguely related to memory, but is nothing like a PCI memory
>> > device in the meaning of the class code, and this code is not required or
>> > suggested by the virtio PCI specification.
>> >
>> > Worse, this patch causes problems on the pseries machine, because the
>> > firmware, seeing this class code, advertises the device as memory in the
>> > device tree, and then a guest kernel bug causes it to see this "memory"
>> > before the real system memory, leading to a crash in early boot.
>> >
>> > This patch fixes the problem by removing the bogus PCI class code on the
>> > balloon device.
>> >
>> > Cc: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
>> > Cc: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
>> >
>> > Signed-off-by: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
>> > ---
>> >  hw/virtio-pci.c |    2 +-
>> >  1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
>>
>> Since this is a guest-visible change we might need to be careful about
>> how it's introduced.
>>
>> Do we need to keep the old class code for existing machine types?  The
>> new class code could be introduced only for 1.1 and later machine types
>> if we want to be extra careful about introducing guest-visible
>> changes.
>
> So as a general rule, I like to be very careful about user-visible
> changes.  But in this case, I don't think we want to be too hesitant.
> In particular, it's not just a question of the machine type, but also
> of how the guest OS will deal with the PCI class code.
>
> The class code we were using was Just Plain Wrong.  It was not
> suggetsed by the virtio spec, and it makes no sense.  It happens that
> so far this caused problems only for a guest on a particular machine
> type, but there's no reason it couldn't cause (different) problems for
> guests on any machine type.
>
> More to the point, it seems reasonably unlikely for existing guests to
> rely on the broken behaviour: again, there's no reason they'd think
> they need to based on the spec, and the usual way of matching drivers
> to PCI devices is with the vendor/device IDs which are correct and not
> changed by this patch.
>
> So, unless we have a known example of an existing guest that would be
> broken by this change, I think we should implement it ASAP for all
> machine types.

I agree that in practice the risk is low because working guests are
probably not using the class code.  On the other hand I don't see a
downside to making this part of the 1.1 machine type, which is what
users will run when they get this code change anyway.  That way we can
tell users that we never change the device model in a release with a
straight face :).

Anthony: I'm not sure how strict we are about a user-visible change like this?

Stefan

  reply	other threads:[~2012-03-20  9:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-03-19  4:59 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Remove PCI class code from virtio balloon device David Gibson
2012-03-19 11:33 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-03-20  0:42   ` David Gibson
2012-03-20  9:54     ` Stefan Hajnoczi [this message]
2012-03-20 10:19       ` David Gibson
2012-03-21 11:26         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-03-21 11:28           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-03-21 13:24             ` David Gibson
2012-03-21 13:08           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-03-21 14:42             ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-21 15:10               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-03-21 15:14                 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-21 16:11                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-03-21 16:26                     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-21 16:33                       ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-21 18:28                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-03-21 18:11                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-03-20 10:53     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-03-26  1:19 David Gibson
2012-04-02  2:43 ` David Gibson
2012-04-02  6:46   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-04-02  6:49     ` David Gibson
2012-04-02  7:11       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-04-03 14:31         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-03-22  9:09 David Gibson
2012-03-22 10:01 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-03-22 10:27   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-03-22 10:32     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-03-22 10:52   ` David Gibson
2012-03-22 11:53 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-03-23  1:52   ` David Gibson
2012-03-23 12:54     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-16  1:03 David Gibson
2012-03-18 12:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-03-19  2:17   ` David Gibson

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