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From: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>
To: "Benoît Canet" <benoit.canet@irqsave.net>
Cc: kwolf@redhat.com, "Benoît Canet" <benoit.canet@gmail.com>,
	stefanha@linux.vnet.ibm.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	blauwirbel@gmail.com, anthony@codemonkey.ws, pbonzini@redhat.com,
	eblake@redhat.com, afaerber@suse.de
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC V3 0/9] Quorum disk image corruption resiliency
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 16:28:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJSP0QU6sqzRAEFxss66z0FVUS6tY+S6ABU9jQMM_Nr-zTWZjQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120820140322.GB9290@irqsave.net>

On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Benoît Canet <benoit.canet@irqsave.net> wrote:
> Le Monday 20 Aug 2012 ŕ 13:56:53 (+0100), Stefan Hajnoczi a écrit :
>> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 12:42 PM, Benoît Canet <benoit.canet@irqsave.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > Le Monday 20 Aug 2012 ŕ 12:24:33 (+0100), Stefan Hajnoczi a écrit :
>> >> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 12:23 PM, Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Benoît Canet <benoit.canet@irqsave.net> wrote:
>> >> >> Le Tuesday 14 Aug 2012 ŕ 16:14:02 (+0200), Benoît Canet a écrit :
>> >> >>> This patchset create a block driver implementing a quorum using m qemu disk
>> >> >>> images. Writes are mirrored on the m files.
>> >> >>> For the reading part the m files are read at the same time and a vote is
>> >> >>> done to determine if a qiov version is present n or more times. It then return
>> >> >>> this majority version to the upper layers.
>> >> >>> When i < n versions of the data are returned by the lower layer the
>> >> >>> quorum is broken and the read return -EIO.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> The goal of this patchset is to be turned in a QEMU block filter living just
>> >> >>> above raw-*.c and below qcow2/qed when the required infrastructure will be done.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Main use of this feature will be people using NFS appliances which can be
>> >> >>> subjected to bitflip errors.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> This patchset can be used to replace blkverify and the out of tree blkmirror.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> usage: -drive file=quorum:n/m:image_1.raw:...:image_m.raw,if=virtio,cache=none
>> >> >>
>> >> >> stefanha: I am wondering what would be needed to do in order to have COR and streaming working
>> >> >> with quorum.c ?
>> >> >
>> >> > .bdrv_is_allocated()/.bdrv_co_is_allocated() needs to be supported by
>> >> > block/quorum.c.  Have you tried it and found a problem?
>> >>
>> >> Just want to confirm you are thinking about image streaming on top of
>> >> quorum?  Or are you thinking about streaming underneath quorum?
>> >
>> > I am thinking about streaming with quorum on top of a bunch of backing files.
>> > ie: data landing into the higher level backing file living just under quorum.
>>
>> If there are backing files then there must be qcow2 or another image
>> format on top of quorum:
>>
>> qcow2 ("virtio0")
>> +------ foo.img (file)
>> +------ quorum (backing_hd)
>>         +------- backing_a.img
>>         +------- backing_b.img
>>         +------- backing_c.img
>>
>> .bdrv_is_allocated()/.bdrv_co_is_allocated() must be supported by quorum.
>
> This seems like a low hanging fruit.
>
> Too bad we cannot create new snapshot of quorum file easily without full
> block filter support in qemu.
> Am I right ?

If the snapshot also needs to use quorum then we definitely need more
logic during the snapshot creation process than exists today.

Stefan

      reply	other threads:[~2012-08-20 15:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-08-14 14:14 [Qemu-devel] [RFC V3 0/9] Quorum disk image corruption resiliency Benoît Canet
2012-08-14 14:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC V3 1/9] quorum: Create quorum.c, add QuorumSingleAIOCB and QuorumAIOCB Benoît Canet
2012-08-14 14:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC V3 2/9] quorum: Create BDRVQuorumState and BlkDriver and do init Benoît Canet
2012-08-14 14:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC V3 3/9] quorum: Add quorum_open() and quorum_close() Benoît Canet
2012-08-14 14:45   ` Eric Blake
2012-08-14 14:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC V3 4/9] quorum: Add quorum_getlength() Benoît Canet
2012-08-14 16:08   ` Eric Blake
2012-08-16 13:18     ` Benoît Canet
2012-08-14 14:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC V3 5/9] quorum: Add quorum_aio_writev and its dependencies Benoît Canet
2012-08-14 14:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC V3 6/9] blkverify: Extract qemu_iovec_clone() and qemu_iovec_compare() from blkverify Benoît Canet
2012-08-14 14:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC V3 7/9] quorum: Add quorum_co_flush() Benoît Canet
2012-08-14 18:52   ` Blue Swirl
2012-08-14 14:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC V3 8/9] quorum: Add quorum_aio_readv Benoît Canet
2012-08-15 10:53   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-08-14 14:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC V3 9/9] quorum: Add quorum mechanism Benoît Canet
2012-08-15 10:51   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-08-14 18:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC V3 0/9] Quorum disk image corruption resiliency Blue Swirl
2012-08-15 13:12 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-08-20 10:12 ` Benoît Canet
2012-08-20 11:23   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-08-20 11:24     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-08-20 11:42       ` Benoît Canet
2012-08-20 12:56         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-08-20 14:03           ` Benoît Canet
2012-08-20 15:28             ` Stefan Hajnoczi [this message]

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