qemu-devel.nongnu.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>
To: "Lluís Vilanova" <vilanova@ac.upc.edu>
Cc: harsh@linux.vnet.ibm.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/12] trace: [tracetool] Automatically establish available backends and formats
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 09:29:51 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJSP0QUBzzWdveJMV+73ADHD8hZwHg0SJQJ7M3PSYFkv3bSJiQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87pqc79km7.fsf@ginnungagap.bsc.es>

2012/3/20 Lluís Vilanova <vilanova@ac.upc.edu>:
> Stefan Hajnoczi writes:
>
>> 2012/3/20 Lluís Vilanova <vilanova@ac.upc.edu>:
>>> Stefan Hajnoczi writes:
>>>
>>>> 2012/3/13 Lluís Vilanova <vilanova@ac.upc.edu>:
>>>>> Adds decorators to establish which backend and/or format each routine is meant
>>>>> to process.
>>>>>
>>>>> With this, tables enumerating format and backend routines can be eliminated and
>>>>> part of the usage message can be computed in a more generic way.
>>>>>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Lluís Vilanova <vilanova@ac.upc.edu>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Harsh Prateek Bora <harsh@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
>>>>> ---
>>>>>  Makefile.objs        |    6 -
>>>>>  Makefile.target      |    3
>>>>>  scripts/tracetool.py |  320 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++------------------
>>>>>  3 files changed, 211 insertions(+), 118 deletions(-)
>>>
>>>> I find the decorators are overkill and we miss the chance to use more
>>>> straightforward approaches that Python supports.  The decorators build
>>>> structures behind the scenes instead of using classes in an open coded
>>>> way.  I think this makes it more difficult for people to modify the
>>>> code - they will need to dig in to what exactly the decorators do -
>>>> what they do is pretty similar to what you get from a class.
>>>
>>>> I've tried out an alternative approach which works very nicely for
>>>> formats.  For backends it's not a perfect fit because it creates
>>>> instances when we don't really need them, but I think it's still an
>>>> overall cleaner approach:
>>>
>>>> https://github.com/stefanha/qemu/commit/3500eb43f80f3c9200107aa0ca19a1b57300ef8a
>>>
>>>> What do you think?
>>>
>>> I don't like it:
>>>
>>> 1) Format and backend tables must be manually filled.
>>>
>>> 2) The base Backend class has empty methods for each possible format.
>>>
>>> 3) There is no control on format/backend compatibility.
>>>
>>> But I do like the idea of having a single per-backend class having methods for
>>> each possible format.
>>>
>>> The main reason for automatically establishing formats, backends and their
>>> compatibility is that the instrumentation patches add some extra formats and
>>> backends, which makes the process much more tedious if it's not automated.
>>>
>>> Whether you use decorators or classes is not that important.
>>>
>>> Auto-registration can be accomplished using metaclasses and special
>>> per-format/backend "special" attributes the metaclasses will look for (e.g. NAME
>>> to set the commandline-visible name of a format/backend.).
>>>
>>> Format/backend compatibility can be established by introspecting into the
>>> methods on each backend child class, matched against the NAMEs of the registered
>>> formats.
>>>
>>> But going this way does not sound to me like it will be much clearer than
>>> decorators.
>>>
>>> Do you agree? (I'll wait on solving this before fixing the rest of your concerns
>>> in this series). Do you still prefer classes over decorators?
>
>> For formats the Format class plus a dict approach is much nicer than
>> decorators.  The code is short and easy to understand.
>
> Well, I prefer to automate this kind of things so that new features get
> automatically registered and the changes are localized; but it really doesn't
> matter that much :)

Formats seem so simple to me that the cost of any infrastructure is
higher than throwing a Format() instance in a dict.

> Maybe this would work nice for everybody:
>
> tracetool.py                  # main program (just parse cmdline opts and call tracetool module)
> tracetool/__init__.py         # common boilerplate code (e.g., event parsing and call dispatching)
> tracetool/format/__init__.py  # format auto-registration/lookup code
> tracetool/format/h.py         # code for the 'h' format
>                              # __doc__           [mandatory, format description]
>                              # def begin(events) [optional]
>                              # def end(events)   [optional]
> tracetool/backend/__init__.py # backend auto-registration/lookup code
> tracetool/backend/simple.py   # code for the 'simple' backend
>                              # __doc__            [mandatory, backend description]
>                              # PUBLIC = [True|False] [optional,
>                              #                        defaults to False,
>                              #                        indicates it's listed on --list-backends]
>                              # def format(events) [optional,
>                              #                     backend-specific code for given format,
>                              #                     implicitly indicates format compatibility]

Let's call this function backend.generate(events) instead of "format"
since we already use that term and it's a Python builtin too.  This is
a code generation function.

>
> Note that new formats will need to add new format routines in
> 'tracetool/backend/nop.py' to accomodate whatever action has to be taken on
> disabled events.

I think it's more convenient to drop the nop backend and introduce a
nop() code generation function for each format.

The .h format would nop() function would emit a static inline empty C
function that does nothing.

The other formats could probably do nothing in nop().

>> As the next step with this patch series we could drop this patch.  It
>> doesn't make an external difference.  Then we can continue to discuss
>> how to best handle backends as a separate patch.
>
> WDYT of the organization above? Given the current code it's pretty simple to
> split it into different modules. If everybody agrees on the above, I can make it
> happen.

I like the organization you have proposed.

In order to avoid rebasing and porting too many fixes from tracetool
to tracetool.py I suggest you resend this series without the
format/backend consolidation code.  I can merge this series quickly
and we can handle the format/backend consolidation code in a separate
patch series.

Stefan

  reply	other threads:[~2012-03-21  9:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-03-13 20:02 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/12] Rewrite tracetool using python Lluís Vilanova
2012-03-13 20:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/12] Converting tracetool.sh to tracetool.py Lluís Vilanova
2012-03-19 16:51   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-03-13 20:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/12] trace: [tracetool] Remove unused 'sizestr' attribute in 'Event' Lluís Vilanova
2012-03-13 20:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/12] trace: [tracetool] Do not rebuild event list in backend code Lluís Vilanova
2012-03-13 20:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/12] trace: [tracetool] Simplify event line parsing Lluís Vilanova
2012-03-13 20:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/12] trace: [tracetool] Do not precompute the event number Lluís Vilanova
2012-03-13 20:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/12] trace: [tracetool] Add support for event properties Lluís Vilanova
2012-03-13 20:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/12] trace: [tracetool] Process the "disable" event property Lluís Vilanova
2012-03-13 20:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/12] trace: [tracetool] Rewrite event argument parsing Lluís Vilanova
2012-03-13 20:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/12] trace: [tracetool] Make format-specific code optional and with access to events Lluís Vilanova
2012-03-13 20:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/12] trace: [tracetool] Automatically establish available backends and formats Lluís Vilanova
2012-03-20  9:22   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-03-20 14:00     ` Lluís Vilanova
2012-03-20 16:33       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-03-20 18:45         ` Lluís Vilanova
2012-03-21  9:29           ` Stefan Hajnoczi [this message]
2012-03-21 14:10             ` Lluís Vilanova
2012-03-22  8:07               ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-03-21 19:59             ` Lluís Vilanova
2012-03-21 21:22               ` Lluís Vilanova
2012-03-13 20:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/12] trace: Provide a per-event status define for conditional compilation Lluís Vilanova
2012-03-13 20:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/12] trace: [tracetool] Add error-reporting functions Lluís Vilanova
2012-03-19 17:45   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-03-20  9:24 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/12] Rewrite tracetool using python Stefan Hajnoczi

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=CAJSP0QUBzzWdveJMV+73ADHD8hZwHg0SJQJ7M3PSYFkv3bSJiQ@mail.gmail.com \
    --to=stefanha@gmail.com \
    --cc=aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com \
    --cc=harsh@linux.vnet.ibm.com \
    --cc=qemu-devel@nongnu.org \
    --cc=vilanova@ac.upc.edu \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).