From: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>
To: liu ping fan <qemulist@gmail.com>
Cc: blauwirbel@gmail.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org, gleb@redhat.com,
seabios@seabios.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
Vasilis Liaskovitis <vasilis.liaskovitis@profitbricks.com>,
kevin@koconnor.net, avi@redhat.com, anthony@codemonkey.ws,
imammedo@redhat.com, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
kraxel@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v3 05/19] Implement dimm device abstraction
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 12:15:17 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJSP0QUo0sOsPnLdFHA8OfSfjGyf3hAQfiLjN3MbF-NT+U6sHg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJnKYQk7k=AFpN1LwzDpuOYZcLmYNAaG3BPCBmNDDa+brFWJJQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 10:06 AM, liu ping fan <qemulist@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 8:25 PM, Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 01:17:21PM +0200, Vasilis Liaskovitis wrote:
>>> +static void dimm_populate(DimmDevice *s)
>>> +{
>>> + DeviceState *dev= (DeviceState*)s;
>>> + MemoryRegion *new = NULL;
>>> +
>>> + new = g_malloc(sizeof(MemoryRegion));
>>> + memory_region_init_ram(new, dev->id, s->size);
>>> + vmstate_register_ram_global(new);
>>> + memory_region_add_subregion(get_system_memory(), s->start, new);
>>> + s->mr = new;
>>> +}
>>> +
>>> +static void dimm_depopulate(DimmDevice *s)
>>> +{
>>> + assert(s);
>>> + vmstate_unregister_ram(s->mr, NULL);
>>> + memory_region_del_subregion(get_system_memory(), s->mr);
>>> + memory_region_destroy(s->mr);
>>> + s->mr = NULL;
>>> +}
>>
>> How is dimm hot unplug protected against callers who currently have RAM
>> mapped (from cpu_physical_memory_map())?
>>
>> Emulated devices call cpu_physical_memory_map() directly or indirectly
>> through DMA emulation code. The RAM pointer may be held for arbitrary
>> lengths of time, across main loop iterations, etc.
>>
>> It's not clear to me that it is safe to unplug a DIMM that has network
>> or disk I/O buffers, for example. We also need to be robust against
>> malicious guests who abuse the hotplug lifecycle. QEMU should never be
>> left with dangling pointers.
>>
> Not sure about the block layer. But I think those thread are already
> out of big lock, so there should be a MemoryListener to catch the
> RAM-unplug event, and if needed, bdrv_flush.
Here is the detailed scenario:
1. Emulated device does cpu_physical_memory_map() and gets a pointer
to guest RAM.
2. Return to vcpu or iothread, continue processing...
3. Hot unplug of RAM causes the guest RAM to disappear.
4. Pending I/O completes and overwrites memory from dangling guest RAM pointer.
Any I/O device that does zero-copy I/O in QEMU faces this problem:
* The block layer is affected.
* The net layer is unaffected because it doesn't do zero-copy tx/rx
across returns to the main loop (#2 above).
* Not sure about other devices classes (e.g. USB).
How should the MemoryListener callback work? For block I/O it may not
be possible to cancel pending I/O asynchronously - if you try to
cancel then your thread may block until the I/O completes.
Synchronous cancel behavior is not workable since it can lead to poor
latency or hangs in the guest.
Stefan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-10-24 10:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-09-21 11:17 [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v3 00/19] ACPI memory hotplug Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-09-21 11:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v3 01/19][SeaBIOS] Add ACPI_EXTRACT_DEVICE* macros Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-09-21 11:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v3 02/19][SeaBIOS] Add SSDT memory device support Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-09-21 11:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v3 03/19][SeaBIOS] acpi-dsdt: Implement functions for memory hotplug Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-09-21 11:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v3 04/19][SeaBIOS] acpi: generate hotplug memory devices Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-09-21 11:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v3 05/19] Implement dimm device abstraction Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-09-24 6:02 ` Wen Congyang
2012-10-23 12:25 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-10-24 8:06 ` liu ping fan
2012-10-24 10:15 ` Stefan Hajnoczi [this message]
2012-10-24 17:16 ` Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-10-25 8:00 ` liu ping fan
2012-10-31 11:15 ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-31 12:18 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-10-31 12:34 ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-31 12:34 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-09-21 11:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v3 06/19] Implement "-dimm" command line option Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-09-22 13:46 ` Blue Swirl
2012-09-24 10:42 ` Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-09-29 11:13 ` Blue Swirl
2012-10-09 17:04 ` Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-10-13 8:57 ` Blue Swirl
2012-10-17 9:19 ` Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-10-17 10:03 ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-18 9:27 ` Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-10-18 12:33 ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-19 17:48 ` Blue Swirl
2012-10-22 10:55 ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-22 8:39 ` Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-09-21 11:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v3 07/19] acpi_piix4: Implement memory device hotplug registers Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-09-22 13:49 ` Blue Swirl
2012-09-21 11:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v3 08/19] pc: calculate dimm physical addresses and adjust memory map Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-09-22 14:15 ` Blue Swirl
2012-09-24 15:27 ` Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-09-29 11:27 ` Blue Swirl
2012-09-21 11:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v3 09/19] pc: Add dimm paravirt SRAT info Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-09-27 3:55 ` Wen Congyang
2012-09-21 11:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v3 10/19] fix live-migration when "populated=on" is missing Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-09-21 11:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v3 11/19] Implement qmp and hmp commands for notification lists Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-09-21 22:03 ` Eric Blake
2012-09-24 14:45 ` Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-10-23 12:15 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-09-21 11:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v3 12/19] Implement "info memory-total" and "query-memory-total" Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-09-21 22:36 ` Eric Blake
2012-09-21 11:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v3 13/19] balloon: update with hotplugged memory Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-09-21 11:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v3 14/19][SeaBIOS] Add _OST dimm method Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-09-21 11:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v3 15/19] Add _OST dimm support Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-09-21 11:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v3 16/19] Update dimm state on reset Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-09-21 11:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v3 17/19][SeaBIOS] Implement _PS3 method for memory device Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-09-21 11:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v3 18/19] Implement _PS3 for dimm Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-09-21 11:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v3 19/19][SeaBIOS] Calculate pcimem_start and pcimem64_start from SRAT entries Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-09-21 11:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v3 19/19] alternative: Introduce paravirt interface QEMU_CFG_PCI_WINDOW Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-09-21 11:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v3 20/19][SeaBIOS] alternative: Use paravirt interface for pci windows Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-09-24 6:35 ` Wen Congyang
2012-09-24 10:46 ` Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-09-24 6:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v3 19/19][SeaBIOS] Calculate pcimem_start and pcimem64_start from SRAT entries Wen Congyang
2012-09-22 14:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v3 00/19] ACPI memory hotplug Blue Swirl
2012-10-31 10:58 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-10-31 11:16 ` Avi Kivity
2012-11-01 9:01 ` Vasilis Liaskovitis
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