From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9D53FC4167B for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2023 16:49:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r8Nka-0000P2-3o; Wed, 29 Nov 2023 11:49:24 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r8NkW-0000Nw-Lk for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 29 Nov 2023 11:49:20 -0500 Received: from mail-oo1-xc29.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::c29]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r8NkV-0006cQ-5t for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 29 Nov 2023 11:49:20 -0500 Received: by mail-oo1-xc29.google.com with SMTP id 006d021491bc7-58d54fd8c5aso2275130eaf.2 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2023 08:49:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1701276557; x=1701881357; darn=nongnu.org; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=vRf8tbT+Ph99HG9WyHarJPNebgXtZ037qc+bMvnnmMw=; b=jDHanwmCZ5CS9QOtPnf4sJfnU+M8t6eGRbocKoPkCmwKNXpsT6793qevjvhRew40HD LMpjk6Oi/QtfkvRV77Edjgy6hivfI5UtavVoIaAAbFreDfcD6npr4VWZ4a0N/kYrOHkd uOsaajsUhkWr0tEGzUnKgqoC2/ylfdYamXOph5fO2jmG2SZNc4y0pH959nUxXNVbcEKm szJhFpzKTf7F99dCFOUHCNGbobo2tiVie6/89KePrF9EKnlBUKB4ht7n+g7Q3QlLWwTh WBc7HbrDUloHhdK2QBDPxrlDwdx1HdhnbnP+rKqrgj/sPDgbTOx9Vh2IEtAiYRnV6h5e J7Hg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1701276557; x=1701881357; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=vRf8tbT+Ph99HG9WyHarJPNebgXtZ037qc+bMvnnmMw=; b=j7zLXS2u+CDPGxtTs/bN5OcGST3W94cHqGUKcOJbV4IbVuXcB3omqE3JCTEQuM2iUi 5c3fi8ByTXtHJG57OohY0Q0yz9/5diMbBCGV8wS/jL7rJSAt3VLIfcXnDtFJRzpIdsXQ A++NOHRr+Eq6VAMceTfaC3sXjzQvMlSluPtStuMBnZOP6tJnNYYtdvAfviHmdUILAjkq GUCqsKdS+G1eMrtW2I3BfdFNIxFa8eG52GofqVLvtFoiUEU2q0Xd1kitjczphdOWFkYp 9i7DudIVoF4mT63LVO+WejWLtk7HM3RVAng6vGSHNncjkZr6OC0GPdFaTPul6USj2k7Q Ln/g== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YxG9gk4CyPdVGMt6UdYbv0vQxkcJM4SE9QYOHfOcByC85VtIoyj OgDXq51Wds3gzVlUypp5xX0yZcnaZtF7zzjAq/M= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFzC4uD74Lc73OyAy883a0lUP2w2zUs78FUy4sg25ZorHZKLhb2a7TvD2dlnxljluK6Fdg9YD0YXiQ+hc6HTK0= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6820:551:b0:58d:5afa:b79d with SMTP id n17-20020a056820055100b0058d5afab79dmr16770426ooj.1.1701276557080; Wed, 29 Nov 2023 08:49:17 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <87edgjf2v4.fsf@draig.linaro.org> <68337349-a8c7-4520-a381-a359bf8f8438@linaro.org> In-Reply-To: From: Stefan Hajnoczi Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2023 11:49:04 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: QEMU Summit Minutes 2023 To: =?UTF-8?Q?Daniel_P=2E_Berrang=C3=A9?= Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?Philippe_Mathieu=2DDaud=C3=A9?= , =?UTF-8?Q?C=C3=A9dric_Le_Goater?= , =?UTF-8?B?QWxleCBCZW5uw6ll?= , Peter Maydell , QEMU Developers Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::c29; envelope-from=stefanha@gmail.com; helo=mail-oo1-xc29.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: qemu-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org Sender: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org On Wed, 29 Nov 2023 at 11:46, Daniel P. Berrang=C3=A9 = wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 10:53:00AM -0500, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote: > > To give a picture of the state of the CI, I'd say it fails 80% of the > > time. Usually 2 or 3 of the tests fail randomly from a group of <10 > > tests that commonly fail randomly. > > > > In order for the CI to be usable to submaintainers I think it should > > _pass_ at least 90% of the time. > > > > There is still some way to go but I think this goal is achievable in > > the next 2 or 3 months because the set of problematic tests is not > > that large. > > FWIW, also bear in mind that when a pipeline fails, it is advisible to > *NOT* re-run the pipeline, as that increases your odds of hitting another > non-deterministic bug. Instead re-run only the individual job(s) that > failed. Yes, that's the approach I take. It's way to risky to re-run the pipeline because it will probably fail again somewhere else :-). Stefan