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X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::72b Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] DMARC/DKIM and qemu-devel list settings X-BeenThere: qemu-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: "Daniel P. Berrange" , Christian Schoenebeck , Greg Kurz , QEMU Developers , "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" , antonios.motakis@huawei.com, Ian Kelling Errors-To: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org Sender: "Qemu-devel" On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 4:30 PM Peter Maydell wrote: > > On Tue, 3 Sep 2019 at 20:11, Ian Kelling wrote: > > I don't know who has the Qemu-devel list admin password, but whoever has > > it can adopt the unmodified message fix by changing > > dmarc_moderation_action to Accept here: > > https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/admin/qemu-devel/privacy/sender and > > remove subject_prefix here > > https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/admin/qemu-devel/general > > I'm one of the list admins, at least for the main qemu-devel > list; some of the sublists have different admins (and > perhaps different settings -- there's no way to conveniently > say "manage all 5 of these lists with the same policies, > so it's easy for them to get out of sync, deliberately > or accidentally). > > I have been considering whether we change how we're handling > the DMARC problem for the list. I picked munge-the-email > initially because I think we didn't really understand the > consequences in terms of patchmail, and also because there > was a group of subscribers who complained that they liked > the [qemu-devel] tag, used it for filtering email, etc. > I think overall my opinion has shifted to thinking that > the downsides of munge-the-email are too great and we should > indeed switch to not modifying the message at all. Yes, I think so too. Thanks for notifying us, Ian! Stefan