From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:45781) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Su3uC-0003Lk-BU for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 11:53:59 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Su3u2-0007dJ-Uk for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 11:53:44 -0400 Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f45.google.com ([209.85.215.45]:37424) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Su3u2-0007dC-La for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 11:53:34 -0400 Received: by lahc1 with SMTP id c1so652801lah.4 for ; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 08:53:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <500DACED.9080805@dev-zero.net> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 16:53:33 +0100 Message-ID: From: Stefan Hajnoczi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-discuss] qemu-kvm: -netdev user: Parameter 'id' is missing List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: anatoly techtonik Cc: Mike Lovell , qemu-devel@nongnu.org On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote: > On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 8:02 PM, anatoly techtonik wrote: >> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote: >>> On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 10:41 PM, anatoly techtonik wrote: >>>> Forwarding per discussion in qemu-discuss. >>>> Please CC. >>>> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>> From: Mike Lovell >>>> Date: Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 10:58 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [Qemu-discuss] qemu-kvm: -netdev user: Parameter 'id' is missing >>>> To: qemu-discuss@nongnu.org >>>> >>>> >>>> On 07/20/2012 04:10 PM, anatoly techtonik wrote: >>>>> >>>>> The documentation at http://wiki.qemu.org/Documentation/Networking >>>>> makes people think that 'id' parameter for -netdev user is optional, >>>>> which doesn't appear to be true: >>>>> >>>>> $ qemu-kvm -hda image.img -netdev user >>>>> qemu-kvm: -netdev user: Parameter 'id' is missing >>> >>> I have updated the wiki page. >> >> Even with -net nic considered obsolete (is the whole -net family >> obsolete?), it looks like there is no complete replacement for it. For >> example, there is no equivalent for -net nic,model=? (referenced from >> wiki). It is also strange to read proposal to "see the qemu man page >> for the various options that you can pass to -net nic". Unfortunately, >> -netdev is completely undocumented in man and there is no info that >> -net nic and -net user are obsolete there. All this stuff is >> confusing. > > You are right that this is underdocumented and confusing. Answers to > your points: I have restructured the wiki page. Most of it focusses on -netdev/-device now. There is a separate section at the bottom on -net. Some distractions were removed and I hope it's slightly easier to get into. Next I will write the -netdev man page section. If you would like a wiki account please let me know your preferred username. Stefan