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From: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] event_notifier: move to top-level directory
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 10:12:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJSP0QWEBXpCAS-Z+DX35yjd9JHrRTjZOXthLFNbk_Qnz2Y1Zg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E823EEE.3030807@codemonkey.ws>

On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 10:23 PM, Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws> wrote:
> On 09/27/2011 11:39 AM, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>>
>> On 09/27/2011 06:05 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>>>
>>> Actually, for posix-aio, we can just switch to using g_idle_add().
>>> g_idle_add() uses g_source_attach which is thread safe. g_idle_add()
>>> gives you a thread safe mechanism to defer a piece of work to the
>>> main loop which is really what we want here.
>>
>> For that, a bottom half would also do (apart that I am not sure it is
>> async-safe with TCG). In fact, that would make sense since all of
>> posix_aio_process_queue could become a bottom half.
>
> Bottom halves are signal safe, not thread safe.
>
> To make bottom halves thread safe, you would (in the very least) have to add
> some barriers when reading/writing the scheduling flag.  I think it's much
> better to just use GIdle sources though.
>
>>> This can actually be made to work with sync I/O emulation too by
>>> having another GMainLoop in the sync I/O loop although I thought I
>>> recalled a patch series to remove that stuff.
>>
>> ... which stuff? :)
>
> The sync I/O emulation.  Since sync I/O is done in block drivers, they can
> just use coroutine I/O instead of sync I/O.

Yes, I think we should covert sync I/O code to use coroutines, which
is quite natural.  The users of sync I/O today are:
1. Hardware emulation - lesser-used or not performance-critical code
paths still use bdrv_read/write() in places, e.g. sd, nand, fdc, ide
pio.
2. Block drivers.  Some image formats are synchronous, but converting
to coroutines is pretty easy.
3. qemu-tools including qemu-img and qemu-io.

With Paolo's work to make the event loop available in qemu-tools it
should be possible to convert and eliminate synchronous I/O
interfaces.

Stefan

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-09-28  9:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-09-27 14:26 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] event_notifier: move to top-level directory Avi Kivity
2011-09-27 15:17 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-09-27 15:28   ` Jan Kiszka
2011-09-27 16:05     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-27 16:39       ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-09-27 21:23         ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-28  6:27           ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-09-28  7:52             ` Jan Kiszka
2011-09-28  8:00               ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-09-28  9:12           ` Stefan Hajnoczi [this message]
2011-11-01 22:18 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-02 18:10   ` Alexander Graf
2011-11-02 17:12     ` Avi Kivity
2011-11-02 17:13       ` Avi Kivity
2011-11-02 18:23         ` Alexander Graf
2011-11-02 17:22           ` Avi Kivity
2011-11-02 17:27             ` Alexander Graf

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