* [PATCH for-10.0] docs: Document removal of 64-bit on 32-bit emulation
@ 2025-04-12 16:43 Richard Henderson
2025-04-14 8:36 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
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0 siblings, 4 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Richard Henderson @ 2025-04-12 16:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: qemu-devel; +Cc: berrange, stefanha, philmd
With acce728cbc6c we disallowed configuring 64-bit guests on
32-bit hosts, but forgot to document that in removed-features.
Signed-off-by: Richard Henderson <richard.henderson@linaro.org>
---
docs/about/removed-features.rst | 9 +++++++++
1 file changed, 9 insertions(+)
diff --git a/docs/about/removed-features.rst b/docs/about/removed-features.rst
index 2527a91795..790a5e481c 100644
--- a/docs/about/removed-features.rst
+++ b/docs/about/removed-features.rst
@@ -858,6 +858,15 @@ QEMU. Since all recent x86 hardware from the past >10 years is
capable of the 64-bit x86 extensions, a corresponding 64-bit OS should
be used instead.
+32-bit hosts for 64-bit guests (removed in 10.0)
+''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
+
+In general, 32-bit hosts cannot support the memory space or atomicity
+requirements of 64-bit guests. Prior to 10.0, QEMU attempted to
+work around the atomicity issues in system mode by running all vCPUs
+in a single thread context; in user mode atomicity was simply broken.
+From 10.0, QEMU has disabled configuration of 64-bit guests on 32-bit hosts.
+
Guest Emulator ISAs
-------------------
--
2.43.0
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2025-04-12 16:43 [PATCH for-10.0] docs: Document removal of 64-bit on 32-bit emulation Richard Henderson
@ 2025-04-14 8:36 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-04-14 9:21 ` Alex Bennée
` (2 subsequent siblings)
3 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Daniel P. Berrangé @ 2025-04-14 8:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Richard Henderson; +Cc: qemu-devel, stefanha, philmd
On Sat, Apr 12, 2025 at 09:43:15AM -0700, Richard Henderson wrote:
> With acce728cbc6c we disallowed configuring 64-bit guests on
> 32-bit hosts, but forgot to document that in removed-features.
>
> Signed-off-by: Richard Henderson <richard.henderson@linaro.org>
> ---
> docs/about/removed-features.rst | 9 +++++++++
> 1 file changed, 9 insertions(+)
>
> diff --git a/docs/about/removed-features.rst b/docs/about/removed-features.rst
> index 2527a91795..790a5e481c 100644
> --- a/docs/about/removed-features.rst
> +++ b/docs/about/removed-features.rst
> @@ -858,6 +858,15 @@ QEMU. Since all recent x86 hardware from the past >10 years is
> capable of the 64-bit x86 extensions, a corresponding 64-bit OS should
> be used instead.
>
> +32-bit hosts for 64-bit guests (removed in 10.0)
> +''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
> +
> +In general, 32-bit hosts cannot support the memory space or atomicity
> +requirements of 64-bit guests. Prior to 10.0, QEMU attempted to
> +work around the atomicity issues in system mode by running all vCPUs
> +in a single thread context; in user mode atomicity was simply broken.
> +From 10.0, QEMU has disabled configuration of 64-bit guests on 32-bit hosts.
> +
> Guest Emulator ISAs
> -------------------
Reviewed-by: Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@redhat.com>
With regards,
Daniel
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2025-04-12 16:43 [PATCH for-10.0] docs: Document removal of 64-bit on 32-bit emulation Richard Henderson
2025-04-14 8:36 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
@ 2025-04-14 9:21 ` Alex Bennée
2025-04-14 10:25 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-04-14 15:16 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
3 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Alex Bennée @ 2025-04-14 9:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Richard Henderson; +Cc: qemu-devel, berrange, stefanha, philmd
Richard Henderson <richard.henderson@linaro.org> writes:
> With acce728cbc6c we disallowed configuring 64-bit guests on
> 32-bit hosts, but forgot to document that in removed-features.
>
> Signed-off-by: Richard Henderson <richard.henderson@linaro.org>
Reviewed-by: Alex Bennée <alex.bennee@linaro.org>
--
Alex Bennée
Virtualisation Tech Lead @ Linaro
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* Re: [PATCH for-10.0] docs: Document removal of 64-bit on 32-bit emulation
2025-04-12 16:43 [PATCH for-10.0] docs: Document removal of 64-bit on 32-bit emulation Richard Henderson
2025-04-14 8:36 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-04-14 9:21 ` Alex Bennée
@ 2025-04-14 10:25 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-04-14 15:16 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
3 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Philippe Mathieu-Daudé @ 2025-04-14 10:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Richard Henderson, qemu-devel; +Cc: berrange, stefanha
On 12/4/25 18:43, Richard Henderson wrote:
> With acce728cbc6c we disallowed configuring 64-bit guests on
> 32-bit hosts, but forgot to document that in removed-features.
>
> Signed-off-by: Richard Henderson <richard.henderson@linaro.org>
> ---
> docs/about/removed-features.rst | 9 +++++++++
> 1 file changed, 9 insertions(+)
Reviewed-by: Philippe Mathieu-Daudé <philmd@linaro.org>
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* Re: [PATCH for-10.0] docs: Document removal of 64-bit on 32-bit emulation
2025-04-12 16:43 [PATCH for-10.0] docs: Document removal of 64-bit on 32-bit emulation Richard Henderson
` (2 preceding siblings ...)
2025-04-14 10:25 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
@ 2025-04-14 15:16 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2025-04-14 15:24 ` Richard Henderson
3 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Hajnoczi @ 2025-04-14 15:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Richard Henderson; +Cc: qemu-devel, berrange, philmd
On Sat, Apr 12, 2025 at 12:43 PM Richard Henderson
<richard.henderson@linaro.org> wrote:
>
> With acce728cbc6c we disallowed configuring 64-bit guests on
> 32-bit hosts, but forgot to document that in removed-features.
>
> Signed-off-by: Richard Henderson <richard.henderson@linaro.org>
> ---
> docs/about/removed-features.rst | 9 +++++++++
> 1 file changed, 9 insertions(+)
Merged for 10.0 via Michael Tokarev's trivial patches pull request.
Stefan
>
> diff --git a/docs/about/removed-features.rst b/docs/about/removed-features.rst
> index 2527a91795..790a5e481c 100644
> --- a/docs/about/removed-features.rst
> +++ b/docs/about/removed-features.rst
> @@ -858,6 +858,15 @@ QEMU. Since all recent x86 hardware from the past >10 years is
> capable of the 64-bit x86 extensions, a corresponding 64-bit OS should
> be used instead.
>
> +32-bit hosts for 64-bit guests (removed in 10.0)
> +''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
> +
> +In general, 32-bit hosts cannot support the memory space or atomicity
> +requirements of 64-bit guests. Prior to 10.0, QEMU attempted to
> +work around the atomicity issues in system mode by running all vCPUs
> +in a single thread context; in user mode atomicity was simply broken.
> +From 10.0, QEMU has disabled configuration of 64-bit guests on 32-bit hosts.
> +
> Guest Emulator ISAs
> -------------------
>
> --
> 2.43.0
>
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2025-04-14 15:16 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
@ 2025-04-14 15:24 ` Richard Henderson
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Richard Henderson @ 2025-04-14 15:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stefan Hajnoczi; +Cc: qemu-devel, berrange, philmd, Michael Tokarev
On 4/14/25 08:16, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 12, 2025 at 12:43 PM Richard Henderson
> <richard.henderson@linaro.org> wrote:
>>
>> With acce728cbc6c we disallowed configuring 64-bit guests on
>> 32-bit hosts, but forgot to document that in removed-features.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Richard Henderson <richard.henderson@linaro.org>
>> ---
>> docs/about/removed-features.rst | 9 +++++++++
>> 1 file changed, 9 insertions(+)
>
> Merged for 10.0 via Michael Tokarev's trivial patches pull request.
Thanks, guys.
r~
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