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From: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>
To: Hanna Czenczek <hreitz@redhat.com>
Cc: "Stefan Hajnoczi" <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, virtio-fs@redhat.com,
	"German Maglione" <gmaglione@redhat.com>,
	"Anton Kuchin" <antonkuchin@yandex-team.ru>,
	"Juan Quintela" <quintela@redhat.com>,
	"Michael S . Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"Stefano Garzarella" <sgarzare@redhat.com>,
	"Roman Kagan" <rvkagan@yandex-team.ru>,
	"Maxime Coquelin" <maxime.coquelin@redhat.com>,
	"Marc-André Lureau" <marcandre.lureau@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] vhost: Re-enable vrings after setting features
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2023 07:03:55 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJSP0QWOu5vW_fWc+UKfemrfhgGvJjNJmifVGCyRaP895AXocg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0ca69a92-49ab-223e-b737-9d8655883f38@redhat.com>

On Thu, 13 Apr 2023 at 04:20, Hanna Czenczek <hreitz@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On 12.04.23 22:51, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 05:05:12PM +0200, Hanna Czenczek wrote:
> >> If the back-end supports the VHOST_USER_F_PROTOCOL_FEATURES feature,
> >> setting the vhost features will set this feature, too.  Doing so
> >> disables all vrings, which may not be intended.
> >>
> >> For example, enabling or disabling logging during migration requires
> >> setting those features (to set or unset VHOST_F_LOG_ALL), which will
> >> automatically disable all vrings.  In either case, the VM is running
> >> (disabling logging is done after a failed or cancelled migration, and
> >> only once the VM is running again, see comment in
> >> memory_global_dirty_log_stop()), so the vrings should really be enabled.
> >> As a result, the back-end seems to hang.
> >>
> >> To fix this, we must remember whether the vrings are supposed to be
> >> enabled, and, if so, re-enable them after a SET_FEATURES call that set
> >> VHOST_USER_F_PROTOCOL_FEATURES.
> >>
> >> It seems less than ideal that there is a short period in which the VM is
> >> running but the vrings will be stopped (between SET_FEATURES and
> >> SET_VRING_ENABLE).  To fix this, we would need to change the protocol,
> >> e.g. by introducing a new flag or vhost-user protocol feature to disable
> >> disabling vrings whenever VHOST_USER_F_PROTOCOL_FEATURES is set, or add
> >> new functions for setting/clearing singular feature bits (so that
> >> F_LOG_ALL can be set/cleared without touching F_PROTOCOL_FEATURES).
> >>
> >> Even with such a potential addition to the protocol, we still need this
> >> fix here, because we cannot expect that back-ends will implement this
> >> addition.
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: Hanna Czenczek <hreitz@redhat.com>
> >> ---
> >>   include/hw/virtio/vhost.h | 10 ++++++++++
> >>   hw/virtio/vhost.c         | 13 +++++++++++++
> >>   2 files changed, 23 insertions(+)
> >>
> >> diff --git a/include/hw/virtio/vhost.h b/include/hw/virtio/vhost.h
> >> index a52f273347..2fe02ed5d4 100644
> >> --- a/include/hw/virtio/vhost.h
> >> +++ b/include/hw/virtio/vhost.h
> >> @@ -90,6 +90,16 @@ struct vhost_dev {
> >>       int vq_index_end;
> >>       /* if non-zero, minimum required value for max_queues */
> >>       int num_queues;
> >> +
> >> +    /*
> >> +     * Whether the virtqueues are supposed to be enabled (via
> >> +     * SET_VRING_ENABLE).  Setting the features (e.g. for
> >> +     * enabling/disabling logging) will disable all virtqueues if
> >> +     * VHOST_USER_F_PROTOCOL_FEATURES is set, so then we need to
> >> +     * re-enable them if this field is set.
> >> +     */
> >> +    bool enable_vqs;
> >> +
> >>       /**
> >>        * vhost feature handling requires matching the feature set
> >>        * offered by a backend which may be a subset of the total
> >> diff --git a/hw/virtio/vhost.c b/hw/virtio/vhost.c
> >> index a266396576..cbff589efa 100644
> >> --- a/hw/virtio/vhost.c
> >> +++ b/hw/virtio/vhost.c
> >> @@ -50,6 +50,8 @@ static unsigned int used_memslots;
> >>   static QLIST_HEAD(, vhost_dev) vhost_devices =
> >>       QLIST_HEAD_INITIALIZER(vhost_devices);
> >>
> >> +static int vhost_dev_set_vring_enable(struct vhost_dev *hdev, int enable);
> >> +
> >>   bool vhost_has_free_slot(void)
> >>   {
> >>       unsigned int slots_limit = ~0U;
> >> @@ -899,6 +901,15 @@ static int vhost_dev_set_features(struct vhost_dev *dev,
> >>           }
> >>       }
> >>
> >> +    if (dev->enable_vqs) {
> >> +        /*
> >> +         * Setting VHOST_USER_F_PROTOCOL_FEATURES would have disabled all
> >> +         * virtqueues, even if that was not intended; re-enable them if
> >> +         * necessary.
> >> +         */
> >> +        vhost_dev_set_vring_enable(dev, true);
> >> +    }
> >> +
> >>   out:
> >>       return r;
> >>   }
> >> @@ -1896,6 +1907,8 @@ int vhost_dev_get_inflight(struct vhost_dev *dev, uint16_t queue_size,
> >>
> >>   static int vhost_dev_set_vring_enable(struct vhost_dev *hdev, int enable)
> >>   {
> >> +    hdev->enable_vqs = enable;
> >> +
> >>       if (!hdev->vhost_ops->vhost_set_vring_enable) {
> >>           return 0;
> >>       }
> > The vhost-user spec doesn't say that VHOST_F_LOG_ALL needs to be toggled
> > at runtime and I don't think VHOST_USER_SET_PROTOCOL_FEATURES is
> > intended to be used like that. This issue shows why doing so is a bad
> > idea.
> >
> > VHOST_F_LOG_ALL does not need to be toggled to control logging. Logging
> > is controlled at runtime by the presence of the dirty log
> > (VHOST_USER_SET_LOG_BASE) and the per-vring logging flag
> > (VHOST_VRING_F_LOG).
>
> Technically, the spec doesn’t say that SET_LOG_BASE is required.  It says:
>
> “To start/stop logging of data/used ring writes, the front-end may send
> messages VHOST_USER_SET_FEATURES with VHOST_F_LOG_ALL and
> VHOST_USER_SET_VRING_ADDR with VHOST_VRING_F_LOG in ring’s flags set to
> 1/0, respectively.”
>
> (So the spec also very much does imply that toggling F_LOG_ALL at
> runtime is a valid way to enable/disable logging.  If we were to no
> longer do that, we should clarify it there.)

I missed that VHOST_VRING_F_LOG only controls logging used ring writes
while writes to descriptors are always logged when VHOST_F_LOG_ALL is
set. I agree that the spec does require VHOST_F_LOG_ALL to be toggled
at runtime.

What I suggested won't work.

> I mean, naturally, logging without a shared memory area to log in to
> isn’t much fun, so we could clarify that SET_LOG_BASE is also a
> requirement, but it looks to me as if we can’t use SET_LOG_BASE to
> disable logging, because it’s supposed to always pass a valid FD (at
> least libvhost-user expects this:
> https://gitlab.com/qemu-project/qemu/-/blob/master/subprojects/libvhost-user/libvhost-user.c#L1044).

As an aside: I don't understand how logging without an fd is supposed
to work in QEMU's code or in the vhost-user spec. QEMU does not
support that case even though it's written as if shmfd were optional.

> So after a cancelled migration, the dirty bitmap SHM will stay around
> indefinitely (which is already not great, but if we were to use the
> presence of that bitmap as an indicator as to whether we should log or
> not, it would be worse).

Yes, continuing to log forever is worse.

>
> So the VRING_F_LOG flag remains.
>
> > I suggest permanently enabling VHOST_F_LOG_ALL upon connection when the
> > the backend supports it. No spec changes are required.
> >
> > libvhost-user looks like it will work. I didn't look at DPDK/SPDK, but
> > checking that it works there is important too.
>
> I can’t find VRING_F_LOG in libvhost-user, so what protocol do you mean
> exactly that would work in libvhost-user?  Because SET_LOG_BASE won’t
> work, as you can’t use it to disable logging.

That's true. There is no way to disable logging.

> (For DPDK, I’m not sure.  It looks like it sometimes takes VRING_F_LOG
> into account, but I think only when it comes to logging accesses to the
> vring specifically, i.e. not DMA to other areas of guest memory?  I
> think only places that use vq->log_guest_addr implicitly check it,
> others don’t.  So for example,
> vhost_log_write_iova()/vhost_log_cache_write_iova() don’t seem to check
> VRING_F_LOG, which seem to be the functions generally used for writes to
> memory outside of the vrings.  So here, even if VRING_F_LOG is disabled
> for all vrings, as long as a log SHM is set, all writes to memory
> outside of the immediate vrings seem to cause logging (as long as
> F_LOG_ALL is set).)
>
> Hanna
>
> > I have CCed people who may be interested in this issue. This is the
> > first time I've looked at vhost-user logging, so this idea may not work.
> >
> > Stefan
>
>


  reply	other threads:[~2023-04-13 11:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-11 15:05 [PATCH 0/4] vhost-user-fs: Internal migration Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-11 15:05 ` [PATCH 1/4] vhost: Re-enable vrings after setting features Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-12 10:55   ` German Maglione
2023-04-12 12:18     ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-12 20:51   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-13  7:17     ` Maxime Coquelin
2023-04-13  8:19     ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-13 11:03       ` Stefan Hajnoczi [this message]
2023-04-13 14:24         ` Anton Kuchin
2023-04-13 15:48           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-04-13 11:03   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-13 17:32     ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-13 13:19   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-04-11 15:05 ` [PATCH 2/4] vhost-user: Interface for migration state transfer Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-12 21:06   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-13  9:24     ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-13 11:38       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-13 17:55         ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-13 20:42           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-14 15:17           ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-04-17 15:18             ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-17 18:55               ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-04-17 19:08                 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-17 19:11                   ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-04-17 19:46                     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-18 10:09                       ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-04-19 10:45             ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-19 10:57               ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-13 10:14     ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-04-13 11:07       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-13 17:31       ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-17 15:12         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-19 10:47           ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-17 18:37         ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-04-17 15:38       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-17 19:09         ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-04-17 19:33           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-18  8:09             ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-04-18 17:59               ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-18 18:31                 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-04-18 20:40                   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-20 13:27                     ` Eugenio Pérez
2023-05-08 19:12                       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-05-09  6:31                         ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-05-09  9:01                           ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-05-09 15:26                             ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-04-19 10:57                 ` [Virtio-fs] " Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-19 11:10                   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-19 11:15                     ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-19 11:24                       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-17 17:14       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-17 19:06         ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-04-17 19:20           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-18  7:54             ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-04-19 11:10               ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-19 11:21                 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-19 11:24                   ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-20 13:29                   ` Eugenio Pérez
2023-05-08 20:10                     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-05-09  6:45                       ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-05-09 15:09                         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-05-09 15:35                           ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-05-09 17:33                             ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-20 10:44                 ` Eugenio Pérez
2023-04-13  8:50   ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-04-13  9:25     ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-11 15:05 ` [PATCH 3/4] vhost: Add high-level state save/load functions Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-12 21:14   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-13  9:04     ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-13 11:22       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-11 15:05 ` [PATCH 4/4] vhost-user-fs: Implement internal migration Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-12 21:00 ` [PATCH 0/4] vhost-user-fs: Internal migration Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-13  8:20   ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-13 16:11 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-04-13 17:53   ` [Virtio-fs] " Hanna Czenczek
2023-05-04 16:05 ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-05-04 21:14   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-05-05  9:03     ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-05-05  9:51       ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-05-05 14:26         ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-05-05 14:37           ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-05-08 17:00             ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-05-08 17:51               ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-05-08 19:31                 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-05-09  8:59                   ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-05-09 15:30           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-05-09 15:43             ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-05-05  9:53       ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-05-05 12:51         ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-05-08 21:10           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-05-09  8:53             ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-05-09 14:53               ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-05-09 15:41       ` Stefan Hajnoczi

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