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From: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>
To: Dietmar Maurer <dietmar@proxmox.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>, qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/5] RFC: Efficient VM backup for qemu (v1)
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 06:23:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJSP0QWxkUoHTgf9srpT+dG9hNRwp1G37ZEJcG3J1dJDriFheg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <24E144B8C0207547AD09C467A8259F755782EEEB@lisa.maurer-it.com>

On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Dietmar Maurer <dietmar@proxmox.com> wrote:
>> > Did you look at the VMDK "Stream-Optimized Compressed" subformat?
>>
>> We've gone down several sub-threads discussing whether VMDK is suitable.
>> I want to summarize why this is a good approach:
>>
>> The VMDK format already allows for out-of-order data and is supported by
>> existing tools - this is very important for backups where people are
>> (rightfully) paranoid about putting their backups in an obscure format.  They
>> want to be able to access their data years later, whether your tool is still
>> around or not.
>
> The VMDK format has strong disadvantages:
>
> - unclear License (the spec links to patents)

I've already pointed out that you're taking an inconsistent position
on this point.  It's FUD.

> - they use a very slow compression algorithm (deflate), which makes it unusable for backup

I've already pointed out that we can optionally support other algorithms.

Stefan

  reply	other threads:[~2012-11-23  5:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-21  9:01 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/5] RFC: Efficient VM backup for qemu (v1) Dietmar Maurer
2012-11-21  9:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/5] add basic backup support to block driver Dietmar Maurer
2012-11-22 11:25   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-11-22 11:29     ` Dietmar Maurer
2012-11-23  8:56     ` Dietmar Maurer
2012-11-21  9:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/5] introduce new vma archive format Dietmar Maurer
2012-11-21 16:06   ` Eric Blake
2012-11-21 17:56     ` Dietmar Maurer
2012-11-21  9:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/5] add backup related monitor commands Dietmar Maurer
2012-11-21 16:16   ` Eric Blake
2012-11-21 17:59     ` Dietmar Maurer
2012-11-21 18:49     ` Dietmar Maurer
2012-11-21  9:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/5] add regression tests for backup Dietmar Maurer
2012-11-21 10:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/5] RFC: Efficient VM backup for qemu (v1) Kevin Wolf
2012-11-21 11:10   ` Dietmar Maurer
2012-11-21 12:37     ` Kevin Wolf
2012-11-21 13:23       ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-11-23  7:42         ` Dietmar Maurer
2012-11-23  9:18           ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-11-23  9:28             ` Dietmar Maurer
2012-11-23  8:12         ` Dietmar Maurer
2012-11-23  9:01           ` Dietmar Maurer
2012-11-23  9:05             ` Dietmar Maurer
2012-11-23  9:15               ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-11-23  9:17                 ` Dietmar Maurer
2012-11-23  9:55               ` Kevin Wolf
2012-11-23 10:55                 ` Markus Armbruster
2012-11-21 13:25       ` Dietmar Maurer
2012-11-21 13:58         ` Kevin Wolf
2012-11-21 15:47           ` Dietmar Maurer
2012-11-23  7:38       ` Dietmar Maurer
2012-11-23  9:08         ` Kevin Wolf
2012-11-23  9:21           ` Dietmar Maurer
2012-11-23  9:31             ` Dietmar Maurer
2012-11-23 10:29               ` Kevin Wolf
2012-11-26  5:51                 ` Dietmar Maurer
2012-11-26 12:07                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-11-27  6:20                     ` Dietmar Maurer
2012-11-27  7:15                       ` Dietmar Maurer
2012-11-27  8:48                         ` Kevin Wolf
2012-11-27 10:24                           ` Dietmar Maurer
2012-11-21 11:23   ` Dietmar Maurer
2012-11-22 11:12 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-11-22 11:26   ` Dietmar Maurer
2012-11-22 12:44     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-11-22 12:55       ` Dietmar Maurer
2012-11-22 15:30         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-11-22 15:58           ` Dietmar Maurer
2012-11-22 17:02             ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-11-22 17:34               ` Dietmar Maurer
2012-11-22 11:40   ` Dietmar Maurer
2012-11-22 15:42     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-11-22 12:00   ` Dietmar Maurer
2012-11-22 15:45     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-11-22 15:56       ` Dietmar Maurer
2012-11-22 16:37         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-11-22 12:03   ` Dietmar Maurer
2012-11-22 17:16   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-11-22 17:46     ` Dietmar Maurer
2012-11-23  5:23       ` Stefan Hajnoczi [this message]
2012-11-23  5:25         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-11-23  6:18           ` Dietmar Maurer
2012-11-23  6:13         ` Dietmar Maurer
2012-11-22 17:50     ` Dietmar Maurer
2012-11-23  5:21       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-11-22 18:05     ` Dietmar Maurer
2012-11-23  5:19       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-11-23  6:05         ` Dietmar Maurer
2012-11-22 18:15     ` Dietmar Maurer
2012-11-27 10:09 ` Wenchao Xia
2012-11-27 10:37   ` Dietmar Maurer
2012-11-28  9:39     ` Wenchao Xia
2012-11-28 11:08       ` Dietmar Maurer

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