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From: Eugenio Perez Martin <eperezma@redhat.com>
To: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>
Cc: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	Hanna Czenczek <hreitz@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org,  virtio-fs@redhat.com,
	German Maglione <gmaglione@redhat.com>,
	 Anton Kuchin <antonkuchin@yandex-team.ru>,
	Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>,
	"Michael S . Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Stefano Garzarella <sgarzare@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4] vhost-user: Interface for migration state transfer
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2023 12:09:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJaqyWe_CyPHMj8bvr7x0T+nRuPjQA1FSHzdFqbpaJfhHbUhEw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJSP0QWhivOnFmmkBoZkxui6xbUVjs3oEUc3-QwPN2V3d7t9rg@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 9:46 PM Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 17 Apr 2023 at 15:12, Eugenio Perez Martin <eperezma@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 9:08 PM Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Mon, 17 Apr 2023 at 14:56, Eugenio Perez Martin <eperezma@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 5:18 PM Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Apr 14, 2023 at 05:17:02PM +0200, Eugenio Perez Martin wrote:
> > > > > > On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 7:55 PM Hanna Czenczek <hreitz@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 13.04.23 13:38, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Thu, 13 Apr 2023 at 05:24, Hanna Czenczek <hreitz@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> On 12.04.23 23:06, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> > > > > > > >>> On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 05:05:13PM +0200, Hanna Czenczek wrote:
> > > > > > > Basically, what I’m hearing is that I need to implement a different
> > > > > > > feature that has no practical impact right now, and also fix bugs around
> > > > > > > it along the way...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To fix this properly requires iterative device migration in qemu as
> > > > > > far as I know, instead of using VMStates [1]. This way the state is
> > > > > > requested to virtiofsd before the device reset.
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't follow. Many devices are fine with non-iterative migration. They
> > > > > shouldn't be forced to do iterative migration.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Sorry I think I didn't express myself well. I didn't mean to force
> > > > virtiofsd to support the iterative migration, but to use the device
> > > > iterative migration API in QEMU to send the needed commands before
> > > > vhost_dev_stop. In that regard, the device or the vhost-user commands
> > > > would not require changes.
> > > >
> > > > I think it is convenient in the long run for virtiofsd, as if the
> > > > state grows so much that it's not feasible to fetch it in one shot
> > > > there is no need to make changes in the qemu migration protocol. I
> > > > think it is not unlikely in virtiofs, but maybe I'm missing something
> > > > obvious and it's state will never grow.
> > >
> > > I don't understand. vCPUs are still running at that point and the
> > > device state could change. It's not safe to save the full device state
> > > until vCPUs have stopped (after vhost_dev_stop).
> > >
> >
> > I think the vCPU is already stopped at save_live_complete_precopy
> > callback. Maybe my understanding is wrong?
>
> Agreed, vCPUs are stopped in save_live_complete_precopy(). However,
> you wrote "use the device iterative migration API in QEMU to send the
> needed commands before vhost_dev_stop". save_live_complete_precopy()
> runs after vhost_dev_stop() so it doesn't seem to solve the problem.
>

You're right, and it actually makes the most sense.

So I guess this converges with the other thread, let's follow the
discussion there.

Thanks!



  reply	other threads:[~2023-04-18 10:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-11 15:05 [PATCH 0/4] vhost-user-fs: Internal migration Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-11 15:05 ` [PATCH 1/4] vhost: Re-enable vrings after setting features Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-12 10:55   ` German Maglione
2023-04-12 12:18     ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-12 20:51   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-13  7:17     ` Maxime Coquelin
2023-04-13  8:19     ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-13 11:03       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-13 14:24         ` Anton Kuchin
2023-04-13 15:48           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-04-13 11:03   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-13 17:32     ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-13 13:19   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-04-11 15:05 ` [PATCH 2/4] vhost-user: Interface for migration state transfer Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-12 21:06   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-13  9:24     ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-13 11:38       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-13 17:55         ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-13 20:42           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-14 15:17           ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-04-17 15:18             ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-17 18:55               ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-04-17 19:08                 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-17 19:11                   ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-04-17 19:46                     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-18 10:09                       ` Eugenio Perez Martin [this message]
2023-04-19 10:45             ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-19 10:57               ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-13 10:14     ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-04-13 11:07       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-13 17:31       ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-17 15:12         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-19 10:47           ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-17 18:37         ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-04-17 15:38       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-17 19:09         ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-04-17 19:33           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-18  8:09             ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-04-18 17:59               ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-18 18:31                 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-04-18 20:40                   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-20 13:27                     ` Eugenio Pérez
2023-05-08 19:12                       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-05-09  6:31                         ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-05-09  9:01                           ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-05-09 15:26                             ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-04-19 10:57                 ` [Virtio-fs] " Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-19 11:10                   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-19 11:15                     ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-19 11:24                       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-17 17:14       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-17 19:06         ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-04-17 19:20           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-18  7:54             ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-04-19 11:10               ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-19 11:21                 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-19 11:24                   ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-20 13:29                   ` Eugenio Pérez
2023-05-08 20:10                     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-05-09  6:45                       ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-05-09 15:09                         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-05-09 15:35                           ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-05-09 17:33                             ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-20 10:44                 ` Eugenio Pérez
2023-04-13  8:50   ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-04-13  9:25     ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-11 15:05 ` [PATCH 3/4] vhost: Add high-level state save/load functions Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-12 21:14   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-13  9:04     ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-13 11:22       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-11 15:05 ` [PATCH 4/4] vhost-user-fs: Implement internal migration Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-12 21:00 ` [PATCH 0/4] vhost-user-fs: Internal migration Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-13  8:20   ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-13 16:11 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-04-13 17:53   ` [Virtio-fs] " Hanna Czenczek
2023-05-04 16:05 ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-05-04 21:14   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-05-05  9:03     ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-05-05  9:51       ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-05-05 14:26         ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-05-05 14:37           ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-05-08 17:00             ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-05-08 17:51               ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-05-08 19:31                 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-05-09  8:59                   ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-05-09 15:30           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-05-09 15:43             ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-05-05  9:53       ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-05-05 12:51         ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-05-08 21:10           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-05-09  8:53             ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-05-09 14:53               ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-05-09 15:41       ` Stefan Hajnoczi

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