From: Eugenio Perez Martin <eperezma@redhat.com>
To: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>
Cc: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
Hanna Czenczek <hreitz@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, virtio-fs@redhat.com,
German Maglione <gmaglione@redhat.com>,
Anton Kuchin <antonkuchin@yandex-team.ru>,
Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>,
"Michael S . Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
Stefano Garzarella <sgarzare@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4] vhost-user: Interface for migration state transfer
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2023 12:09:23 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJaqyWe_CyPHMj8bvr7x0T+nRuPjQA1FSHzdFqbpaJfhHbUhEw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJSP0QWhivOnFmmkBoZkxui6xbUVjs3oEUc3-QwPN2V3d7t9rg@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 9:46 PM Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 17 Apr 2023 at 15:12, Eugenio Perez Martin <eperezma@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 9:08 PM Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Mon, 17 Apr 2023 at 14:56, Eugenio Perez Martin <eperezma@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 5:18 PM Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Apr 14, 2023 at 05:17:02PM +0200, Eugenio Perez Martin wrote:
> > > > > > On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 7:55 PM Hanna Czenczek <hreitz@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 13.04.23 13:38, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Thu, 13 Apr 2023 at 05:24, Hanna Czenczek <hreitz@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> On 12.04.23 23:06, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> > > > > > > >>> On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 05:05:13PM +0200, Hanna Czenczek wrote:
> > > > > > > Basically, what I’m hearing is that I need to implement a different
> > > > > > > feature that has no practical impact right now, and also fix bugs around
> > > > > > > it along the way...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To fix this properly requires iterative device migration in qemu as
> > > > > > far as I know, instead of using VMStates [1]. This way the state is
> > > > > > requested to virtiofsd before the device reset.
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't follow. Many devices are fine with non-iterative migration. They
> > > > > shouldn't be forced to do iterative migration.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Sorry I think I didn't express myself well. I didn't mean to force
> > > > virtiofsd to support the iterative migration, but to use the device
> > > > iterative migration API in QEMU to send the needed commands before
> > > > vhost_dev_stop. In that regard, the device or the vhost-user commands
> > > > would not require changes.
> > > >
> > > > I think it is convenient in the long run for virtiofsd, as if the
> > > > state grows so much that it's not feasible to fetch it in one shot
> > > > there is no need to make changes in the qemu migration protocol. I
> > > > think it is not unlikely in virtiofs, but maybe I'm missing something
> > > > obvious and it's state will never grow.
> > >
> > > I don't understand. vCPUs are still running at that point and the
> > > device state could change. It's not safe to save the full device state
> > > until vCPUs have stopped (after vhost_dev_stop).
> > >
> >
> > I think the vCPU is already stopped at save_live_complete_precopy
> > callback. Maybe my understanding is wrong?
>
> Agreed, vCPUs are stopped in save_live_complete_precopy(). However,
> you wrote "use the device iterative migration API in QEMU to send the
> needed commands before vhost_dev_stop". save_live_complete_precopy()
> runs after vhost_dev_stop() so it doesn't seem to solve the problem.
>
You're right, and it actually makes the most sense.
So I guess this converges with the other thread, let's follow the
discussion there.
Thanks!
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-04-18 10:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-04-11 15:05 [PATCH 0/4] vhost-user-fs: Internal migration Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-11 15:05 ` [PATCH 1/4] vhost: Re-enable vrings after setting features Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-12 10:55 ` German Maglione
2023-04-12 12:18 ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-12 20:51 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-13 7:17 ` Maxime Coquelin
2023-04-13 8:19 ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-13 11:03 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-13 14:24 ` Anton Kuchin
2023-04-13 15:48 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-04-13 11:03 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-13 17:32 ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-13 13:19 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-04-11 15:05 ` [PATCH 2/4] vhost-user: Interface for migration state transfer Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-12 21:06 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-13 9:24 ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-13 11:38 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-13 17:55 ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-13 20:42 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-14 15:17 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-04-17 15:18 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-17 18:55 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-04-17 19:08 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-17 19:11 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-04-17 19:46 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-18 10:09 ` Eugenio Perez Martin [this message]
2023-04-19 10:45 ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-19 10:57 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-13 10:14 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-04-13 11:07 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-13 17:31 ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-17 15:12 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-19 10:47 ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-17 18:37 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-04-17 15:38 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-17 19:09 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-04-17 19:33 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-18 8:09 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-04-18 17:59 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-18 18:31 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-04-18 20:40 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-20 13:27 ` Eugenio Pérez
2023-05-08 19:12 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-05-09 6:31 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-05-09 9:01 ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-05-09 15:26 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-04-19 10:57 ` [Virtio-fs] " Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-19 11:10 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-19 11:15 ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-19 11:24 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-17 17:14 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-17 19:06 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-04-17 19:20 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-18 7:54 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-04-19 11:10 ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-19 11:21 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-19 11:24 ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-20 13:29 ` Eugenio Pérez
2023-05-08 20:10 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-05-09 6:45 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-05-09 15:09 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-05-09 15:35 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-05-09 17:33 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-20 10:44 ` Eugenio Pérez
2023-04-13 8:50 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-04-13 9:25 ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-11 15:05 ` [PATCH 3/4] vhost: Add high-level state save/load functions Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-12 21:14 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-13 9:04 ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-13 11:22 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-11 15:05 ` [PATCH 4/4] vhost-user-fs: Implement internal migration Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-12 21:00 ` [PATCH 0/4] vhost-user-fs: Internal migration Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-13 8:20 ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-13 16:11 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-04-13 17:53 ` [Virtio-fs] " Hanna Czenczek
2023-05-04 16:05 ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-05-04 21:14 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-05-05 9:03 ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-05-05 9:51 ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-05-05 14:26 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-05-05 14:37 ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-05-08 17:00 ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-05-08 17:51 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-05-08 19:31 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-05-09 8:59 ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-05-09 15:30 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-05-09 15:43 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-05-05 9:53 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-05-05 12:51 ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-05-08 21:10 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-05-09 8:53 ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-05-09 14:53 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-05-09 15:41 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
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