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From: Alistair Francis <alistair23@gmail.com>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Cc: "Kevin Wolf" <kwolf@redhat.com>, "Thomas Huth" <thuth@redhat.com>,
	"Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@redhat.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org Developers" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Robert Hoo" <robert.hu@linux.intel.com>,
	"Alistair Francis" <alistair.francis@wdc.com>,
	"Gerd Hoffmann" <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	"Stefan Hajnoczi" <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	dirty.ice.hu@gmail.com, "Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: Let's remove some deprecated stuff
Date: Mon, 3 May 2021 11:41:18 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKmqyKPYu1Y5EaAvVgB9U4kCh4yBJG_75r6ivdvMuZDN6F3ZcQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87y2d1csxe.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org>

On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 8:00 PM Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> If you're cc'ed, you added a section to docs/system/deprecated.rst that
> is old enough to permit removal.  This is *not* a demand to remove, it's
> a polite request to consider whether the time for removal has come.
> Extra points for telling us in a reply.  "We should remove, but I can't
> do it myself right now" is a valid answer.  Let's review the file:
>
>     System emulator command line arguments
>     --------------------------------------
>
> Kővágó, Zoltán:
>
>     ``QEMU_AUDIO_`` environment variables and ``-audio-help`` (since 4.0)
>     '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
>
>     The ``-audiodev`` argument is now the preferred way to specify audio
>     backend settings instead of environment variables.  To ease migration to
>     the new format, the ``-audiodev-help`` option can be used to convert
>     the current values of the environment variables to ``-audiodev`` options.
>
> Kővágó, Zoltán:
>
>     Creating sound card devices and vnc without ``audiodev=`` property (since 4.2)
>     ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
>
>     When not using the deprecated legacy audio config, each sound card
>     should specify an ``audiodev=`` property.  Additionally, when using
>     vnc, you should specify an ``audiodev=`` property if you plan to
>     transmit audio through the VNC protocol.
>
> Gerd Hoffmann:
>
>     Creating sound card devices using ``-soundhw`` (since 5.1)
>     ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
>
>     Sound card devices should be created using ``-device`` instead.  The
>     names are the same for most devices.  The exceptions are ``hda`` which
>     needs two devices (``-device intel-hda -device hda-duplex``) and
>     ``pcspk`` which can be activated using ``-machine
>     pcspk-audiodev=<name>``.
>
> [...]
>
> Alistair Francis:
>
>     RISC-V ``-bios`` (since 5.1)
>     ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
>
>     QEMU 4.1 introduced support for the -bios option in QEMU for RISC-V for the
>     RISC-V virt machine and sifive_u machine. QEMU 4.1 had no changes to the
>     default behaviour to avoid breakages.
>
>     QEMU 5.1 changes the default behaviour from ``-bios none`` to ``-bios default``.
>
>     QEMU 5.1 has three options:
>      1. ``-bios default`` - This is the current default behavior if no -bios option
>           is included. This option will load the default OpenSBI firmware automatically.
>           The firmware is included with the QEMU release and no user interaction is
>           required. All a user needs to do is specify the kernel they want to boot
>           with the -kernel option
>      2. ``-bios none`` - QEMU will not automatically load any firmware. It is up
>           to the user to load all the images they need.
>      3. ``-bios <file>`` - Tells QEMU to load the specified file as the firmwrae.
>

This has already been acted upon in the code, we now default to
including a "bios" with RISC-V softmmu which is what this is
describing.

Do we need to take any action to indicate that it's already in effect?

Alistair


  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-05-03  1:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-29  9:59 Let's remove some deprecated stuff Markus Armbruster
2021-04-29 10:18 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-04-29 10:24   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-04-29 10:29     ` Peter Maydell
2021-04-29 10:35       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-04-29 10:55         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-04-30 10:47           ` Markus Armbruster
2021-04-29 11:07         ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-04-29 10:25 ` Peter Maydell
2021-04-29 10:32 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-04-30  6:47   ` Markus Armbruster
2021-04-29 11:06 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-04-29 12:40   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-04-29 13:12     ` Kevin Wolf
2021-04-29 13:46       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-04-29 15:05         ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-04-30  7:01           ` Markus Armbruster
2021-04-30  7:01           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-05-03 15:10     ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-04-29 11:17 ` Thomas Huth
2021-04-29 11:24   ` Peter Maydell
2021-05-03 10:39     ` Markus Armbruster
2021-04-29 14:49 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-04-29 16:32 ` Eduardo Habkost
2021-04-30  3:22 ` Robert Hoo
2021-05-03  1:41 ` Alistair Francis [this message]
2021-05-03  4:49   ` Thomas Huth
2021-05-03  7:12     ` Alistair Francis
2021-05-03 15:13       ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-05-03 22:57         ` Alistair Francis
2021-05-03 13:14 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-05-03 18:21 ` Eric Blake
2021-05-04 13:59   ` Peter Krempa

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