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To: Gerd Hoffmann Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000008d3622059bce547e" X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::22f X-BeenThere: qemu-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Peter Maydell , Markus Armbruster , =?UTF-8?Q?Philippe_Mathieu=2DDaud=C3=A9?= , qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Aleksandar Markovic , Paolo Bonzini , Aleksandar Rikalo , =?UTF-8?Q?Philippe_Mathieu=2DDaud=C3=A9?= , Aurelien Jarno Errors-To: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org Sender: "Qemu-devel" --0000000000008d3622059bce547e Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 7:45 AM Pon, 06.01.2020. Gerd Hoffmann =D1=98=D0=B5 =D0= =BD=D0=B0=D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BE/=D0=BB=D0=B0: > > Hi, > > > 78c37d88f1b8b0b3ebcc632c458f0c3779fe2951 is the first bad commit > > commit 78c37d88f1b8b0b3ebcc632c458f0c3779fe2951 > > Author: Paolo Bonzini > > Date: Tue Mar 19 15:37:19 2019 +0100 > > > > mips-fulong2e: obey -vga none > > > > Do not create an ATI VGA if "-vga none" was passed on the command line. > > > 1/ the Radeon chip is soldered on the motherboard, > > > > 2/ the default BIOS expects the Radeon chip to be > > unconditionally present, > > > > I insist this patch is incorrect for the particular case of the Fuloong2e > > board. I plan to revert it when I post the test. > > Yep. IMHO devices which you can't unplug on the physical board should > be present even with "qemu -nodefaults". > I have to agree with Philippe's approach. That is not to say that Zoltan's efforts are not appreciated. Just that the patch in question that broke Foolong scenario didn't fit quite well, however some other its reincarnation may have better destiny. Sincerely, Aleksandar > cheers, > Gerd > > --0000000000008d3622059bce547e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

7:45 AM Pon, 06.01.2020. Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com> =D1=98=D0=B5 =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0= =BF=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BE/=D0=BB=D0=B0:
>
> =C2=A0 Hi,
>
> > 78c37d88f1b8b0b3ebcc632c458f0c3779fe2951 is the first bad commit<= br> > > commit 78c37d88f1b8b0b3ebcc632c458f0c3779fe2951
> > Author: Paolo Bonzini <= pbonzini@redhat.com>
> > Date:=C2=A0 =C2=A0Tue Mar 19 15:37:19 2019 +0100
> >
> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0mips-fulong2e: obey -vga none
> >
> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Do not create an ATI VGA if "-vga none&qu= ot; was passed on the command line.
>
> > 1/ the Radeon chip is soldered on the motherboard,
> >
> > 2/ the default BIOS expects the Radeon chip to be
> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 unconditionally present,
> >
> > I insist this patch is incorrect for the particular case of the F= uloong2e
> > board. I plan to revert it when I post the test.
>
> Yep.=C2=A0 IMHO devices which you can't unplug on the physical boa= rd should
> be present even with "qemu -nodefaults".
>

I have to agree with Philippe's approach. That is not to= say that Zoltan's efforts are not appreciated. Just that the patch in = question that broke Foolong scenario didn't fit quite well, however som= e other its reincarnation may have better destiny.

Sincerely,
Aleksandar

> cheers,
> =C2=A0 Gerd
>
>

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