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From: Nir Soffer <nirsof@gmail.com>
To: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
Cc: "Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <f4bug@amsat.org>,
	"Edgar E . Iglesias" <edgar.iglesias@xilinx.com>,
	"Kevin Wolf" <kwolf@redhat.com>, "Thomas Huth" <thuth@redhat.com>,
	"Daniel P . Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	"Eduardo Habkost" <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
	qemu-block@nongnu.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	"Max Reitz" <mreitz@redhat.com>,
	"Marc-André Lureau" <marcandre.lureau@redhat.com>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Cleber Rosa" <crosa@redhat.com>,
	"Lukáš Doktor" <ldoktor@redhat.com>,
	"Fam Zheng" <famz@redhat.com>,
	"Alistair Francis" <alistair.francis@xilinx.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] [PATCH 0/6] QTests: use Python to run complex tests
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2017 15:35:07 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMr-obtBNF8eetFgz=s8vJGqnzGa8+9n4VnF40vZYy5yeFZ3wQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171214093907.GA14433@stefanha-x1.localdomain>

On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 11:39 AM Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
wrote:

> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 06:35:51PM -0300, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > With this series we can now write tests using Python rather than C.
> > For complex tests this can reduce the test development time, we can
> focus on
> > the test purposes instead of his implementation details.
> >
> > - 1,2: we already have Python classes to run Block tests, move all the
> >   non Block-related methods to qtest.py,
> > - 3: default TEST_DIR to TMPDIR,
> > - 4: add a method to restrict tests to a list of supported machines,
> > - 5: since the Block tests are output sensitive, do not mess with their
> >   current tuned iotests::main(unittest), add a more generic one in
> qtest.py,
> > - 6: finally modify the tests Makefile to run C/Python tests with the
> same
> >   rule.
>
> Python tests are great for functional tests of qemu-system-* that
> interact via the command-line and QMP monitor.  From this perspective I
> think the series is good.
>
> > to have a better idea, here is a snippet from the next series:
> >
> >     class TestSdCardSpecV2(qtest.QMPTestCase):
> >         [...]
> >         def test_power_on_spec_v2(self):
> >             self.bus.do_cmd(GO_IDLE_STATE)
> >             [...]
> >             # verify Card ID
> >             data = self.bus.do_cmd(ALL_SEND_CID)
> >             oid, pnm, psn = struct.unpack(">x2s5sxLxxx", data)
> >             self.assertEqual(oid, "XY") # QEMU default
> >             self.assertEqual(pnm, "QEMU!") # QEMU default
> >             self.assertEqual(psn, 0xdeadbeef) # QEMU default
>
> Device qtests are better done in C than Python.  Python is not good at
> binary I/O


Why do you think that? what is missing in python 2 for binary io?


> and porting this to Python 3 will be extra work later (Python
> 2 is set for End-of-Life in 2020, see https://pythonclock.org/).
>

You can write today code that work with both python 2 and 3. For binary
io the key is using io.FileIO and io.BytesIO instead of open() and StringIO
and CStringIO.

Nir


>
> More importantly, we already have libqos in C with a guest memory
> allocator, PCI, and virtio support.  Fragmenting the small amount effort
> that goes into device testing will delay libqos reaching critical mass.
> Critical mass is where libqos provides all the infrastructure you need
> to set up a device and focus on your actual test instead of machine,
> bus, or device initialization.  Starting a Python device testing effort
> will just lead to duplication and 2 underdeveloped device testing
> frameworks.
>
> Is there a specific reason why adding SD Card support to libqos is not
> possible in C?
>

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-12-14 15:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-12-13 21:35 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/6] QTests: use Python to run complex tests Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2017-12-13 21:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/6] iotests.py: split BlockQMPTestCase class of QMPTestCase Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2017-12-13 21:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/6] iotests.py: move the generic QMPTestCase to qtest.py Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2017-12-13 21:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/6] qtest.py: use TMPDIR/TEMP if the TEST_DIR env var is missing Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2017-12-13 21:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/6] qtest.py: add verify_machine(supported_machines) Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2017-12-13 21:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/6] qtest.py: add a simple main() which calls unittest.main() Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2017-12-13 21:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 6/6] tests: add a Makefile rule to run Python qtests Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2017-12-14  9:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/6] QTests: use Python to run complex tests Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-14 11:35   ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-12-14 15:39     ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Nir Soffer
2017-12-14 16:01       ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2017-12-14 16:05       ` Markus Armbruster
2017-12-14 17:33         ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-12-14 19:08           ` Peter Maydell
2017-12-14 19:38             ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-12-14 14:33   ` [Qemu-devel] " Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2017-12-14 17:18     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-14 18:46       ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2017-12-14 15:35   ` Nir Soffer [this message]
2017-12-18 13:59     ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-18 16:09       ` Paolo Bonzini

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