From: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Cc: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
"Thomas Huth" <thuth@redhat.com>,
"Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
"QEMU Developers" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
"Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>,
qemu-arm <qemu-arm@nongnu.org>,
"Maxim Levitsky" <mlevitsk@redhat.com>,
libvir-list@redhat.com,
"Richard Henderson" <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org,
"Reinoud Zandijk" <reinoud@netbsd.org>,
"Marcel Apfelbaum" <marcel.apfelbaum@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] Deprecate support for 32-bit x86 and arm hosts
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2023 00:46:44 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANCZdfpdjBk63BVFqA3E3BJCkdgX0Z53G_=ktwKYLqHbgXxhqw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87lekg53gn.fsf@pond.sub.org>
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On Wed, Mar 1, 2023, 12:36 AM Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com> wrote:
> "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> writes:
>
> > On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 09:05:16PM +0100, Thomas Huth wrote:
> >> Well, without CI, I assume that the code will bitrot quite fast
> (considering
> >> that there are continuous improvements to TCG, for example).
> >
> > We have lots of hosts which we don't test with CI. They don't bitrot
> > because people do testing before release. This is what RCs are for.
> > We did releases before CI - it is a cost/benefit thing.
>
> Dropping 32-bit x86 from CI feels like a no-brainer in the current
> situation.
>
> As to deprecating 32-bit x86: the people by far most qualified to judge
> the "cost/benefit thing" are the regulars who are bearing the cost,
> i.e. the people who are actually maintaining it. Their opinion should
> overrule any "but somebody out there might still want to use it".
>
> Maintainers, please state your opinion, if any: aye or nay.
>
> Richard tells us "the maint overhead is large." Makes me think he's in
> favour of dropping 32-bit x86. Richard?
>
> Peter seems to be reluctant to drop 32-bit ARM at this point. Peter?
>
For FreeBSD systen we have no 32bit arm host users. There may be a few i386
host users left, but they are a tiny sliver of users. The overwhelming bulk
of our users for qemu-system- are on x86-64 or aarch64 hosts.
For bsd-user, there is no 32 bit host support at all. It was dropped as
part of the push to prune old code and upstream.
Warner
>
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Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-02-27 11:10 [PATCH 0/2] Deprecate support for 32-bit x86 and arm hosts Thomas Huth
2023-02-27 11:10 ` [PATCH 1/2] docs/about: Deprecate 32-bit x86 hosts and qemu-system-i386 Thomas Huth
2023-02-27 11:50 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-02-27 20:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-27 20:21 ` Richard Henderson
2023-02-28 8:59 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-28 12:26 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-02-28 9:00 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-28 16:57 ` Richard Henderson
2023-02-27 22:32 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-02-28 7:43 ` Thomas Huth
2023-02-28 7:49 ` Thomas Huth
2023-02-28 8:19 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-28 8:59 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-02-28 9:03 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-28 9:14 ` Thomas Huth
2023-02-28 9:40 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-02-28 10:11 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-28 10:39 ` Markus Armbruster
2023-02-28 10:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-28 11:12 ` Thomas Huth
2023-02-28 11:24 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-28 11:27 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-02-28 11:34 ` Markus Armbruster
2023-02-28 11:45 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-27 20:25 ` Richard Henderson
2023-02-28 7:52 ` Thomas Huth
2023-02-27 11:10 ` [PATCH 2/2] docs/about: Deprecate 32-bit arm hosts and qemu-system-arm Thomas Huth
2023-02-27 18:38 ` [PATCH 0/2] Deprecate support for 32-bit x86 and arm hosts Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-02-28 7:39 ` Thomas Huth
2023-02-28 9:01 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-02-28 11:46 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-28 20:05 ` Thomas Huth
2023-02-28 21:32 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-01 6:38 ` Thomas Huth
2023-03-01 7:35 ` Markus Armbruster
2023-03-01 7:46 ` Warner Losh [this message]
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