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From: "Nicholas Piggin" <npiggin@gmail.com>
To: "Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	"Richard Henderson" <richard.henderson@linaro.org>
Cc: "Daniel Henrique Barboza" <danielhb413@gmail.com>,
	<qemu-ppc@nongnu.org>, <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	<qemu-stable@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4] target/ppc: Ensure stcx size matches larx
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2023 13:39:01 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CTH5Y56UH8XV.27NIMNBOJQYWK@wheely> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFEAcA_9Rh8Y6aWf4SubL2niwow5J73PmXd9P6r5WZ=Mc+_GeQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue Jun 20, 2023 at 3:14 AM AEST, Peter Maydell wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Jun 2023 at 18:03, Richard Henderson
> <richard.henderson@linaro.org> wrote:
> >
> > On 6/19/23 17:55, Peter Maydell wrote:
> > > On Mon, 19 Jun 2023 at 16:49, Richard Henderson
> > > <richard.henderson@linaro.org> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On 6/5/23 08:27, Nicholas Piggin wrote:
> > >>> On Sun Jun 4, 2023 at 8:28 PM AEST, Nicholas Piggin wrote:
> > >>>> Differently-sized larx/stcx. pairs can succeed if the starting address
> > >>>> matches. Add a size check to require stcx. exactly match the larx that
> > >>>> established the reservation.
> > >>>
> > >>> Hmm, question: reserve_addr is a VMSTATE field, but reserve_val is not
> > >>> (nor reserve_size after this patch).
> > >>>
> > >>> Blue Swirl added that with commit a456d59c20f ("VM load/save support for
> > >>> PPC CPU"), and when reserve_val was added in commit 18b21a2f83a
> > >>> ("target-ppc: retain l{w,d}arx loaded value") it did not get migrated.
> > >>>
> > >>> Could we end up with reserve_addr != -1, but with a bogus reserve_val,
> > >>> which could then permit a stcx. incorrectly? Not entirely outlandish if
> > >>> reserve_val starts out initialised to zero.
> > >>>
> > >>> Could we just clear the reserve in cpu_post_load? It is permitted to be
> > >>> lost for an implementation-specific reason. Doesn't seem necessary to
> > >>> try keep it alive over a migration.
> > >>
> > >> It's not a bad idea to flush the reservation over migrate.
> > >
> > > Is there any particular reason to do so? The default simple
> > > thing is "if this is state that persists across instructions
> > > then migrate it"; we usually reserve "do something special in
> > > post-load" for oddball cases where "just copy the data" doesn't
> > > work.
> > >
> > > target/arm migrates both the exclusive addr and value.
> >
> > ppc is adding "size", which arm technically should have as well.
>
> Arm allows an implementation to require the transaction size
> to match on loadexcl and storexcl, but doesn't mandate it, fwiw.
> (Also, our implementation is miles away from the architectural
> requirements anyway because we operate on virtual addresses,
> not physical addresses.)

The same as powerpc. Size *and* address within reserve granule
does not have to match the larx which established the reserve,
but the latter we always enforced and in practice no open source
software seems to hit it (or AIX).

My thinking is that it is good to tighten it because very likely
software that gets it wrong is deviating from ISA unintentionally.
Linux provides no HWCAP bit to allow code to test such
implementation details, for example.

> > > target/mips migrates lladdr but has forgotten llval
> > > (and perhaps llval_wp and llnewval_wp, depending on what
> > > those fields do).
> >
> > So, similarly, would need to handle migration for which all of the required data is not
> > present.
> >
> > The thought is, rather than migrate this new data also, and handle compatibility, simply
> > discard all reservations.
>
> I don't see a problem for normal migration and snapshotting.
> I do wonder whether this would have a bad interaction
> with record-and-replay's use of snapshots. Does that
> expect "execution from the loaded snapshot" to match
> "execution continues from point of snapshot save" ?

I don't mind the idea of moving the new state across, I wondered
if clearing the reserve would be easier for compatibility and
backporting.

I don't know the rr code but if the snapshots use this vmstate
and the replay from that is expected to match exactly the
recording, then I think you must be right.

Thanks,
Nick


  reply	other threads:[~2023-06-20  3:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-04 10:28 [PATCH 1/4] target/ppc: Fix lqarx to set cpu_reserve Nicholas Piggin
2023-06-04 10:28 ` [PATCH 2/4] target/ppc: Ensure stcx size matches larx Nicholas Piggin
2023-06-04 16:58   ` Richard Henderson
2023-06-05  6:27   ` Nicholas Piggin
2023-06-19 15:48     ` Richard Henderson
2023-06-19 15:55       ` Peter Maydell
2023-06-19 17:02         ` Richard Henderson
2023-06-19 17:14           ` Peter Maydell
2023-06-20  3:39             ` Nicholas Piggin [this message]
2023-06-04 10:28 ` [PATCH 3/4] target/ppc: Remove larx/stcx. memory barrier semantics Nicholas Piggin
2023-06-04 16:12   ` Richard Henderson
2023-06-04 10:28 ` [PATCH 4/4] target/ppc: Rework store conditional to avoid branch Nicholas Piggin
2023-06-04 16:22   ` Richard Henderson
2023-06-04 16:05 ` [PATCH 1/4] target/ppc: Fix lqarx to set cpu_reserve Richard Henderson
2023-06-05  2:33   ` Nicholas Piggin

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