From: "Nicholas Piggin" <npiggin@gmail.com>
To: "Greg Kurz" <groug@kaod.org>
Cc: "Juan Quintela" <quintela@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 07/13] RFC migration: icp/server is a mess
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2023 20:21:19 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CWD6WMVZLLFS.185IFJ3HZS0I0@wheely> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231020103344.34baea63@bahia>
On Fri Oct 20, 2023 at 6:33 PM AEST, Greg Kurz wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Oct 2023 17:49:38 +1000
> "Nicholas Piggin" <npiggin@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Fri Oct 20, 2023 at 7:39 AM AEST, Greg Kurz wrote:
> > > On Thu, 19 Oct 2023 21:08:25 +0200
> > > Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Current code does:
> > > > - register pre_2_10_vmstate_dummy_icp with "icp/server" and instance
> > > > dependinfg on cpu number
> > > > - for newer machines, it register vmstate_icp with "icp/server" name
> > > > and instance 0
> > > > - now it unregisters "icp/server" for the 1st instance.
> > > >
> > > > This is wrong at many levels:
> > > > - we shouldn't have two VMSTATEDescriptions with the same name
> > > > - In case this is the only solution that we can came with, it needs to
> > > > be:
> > > > * register pre_2_10_vmstate_dummy_icp
> > > > * unregister pre_2_10_vmstate_dummy_icp
> > > > * register real vmstate_icp
> > > >
> > > > As the initialization of this machine is already complex enough, I
> > > > need help from PPC maintainers to fix this.
> > > >
> > > > Volunteers?
> > > >
> > > > CC: Cedric Le Goater <clg@kaod.org>
> > > > CC: Daniel Henrique Barboza <danielhb413@gmail.com>
> > > > CC: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
> > > > CC: Greg Kurz <groug@kaod.org>
> > > >
> > > > Signed-off-by: Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>
> > > > ---
> > > > hw/ppc/spapr.c | 7 ++++++-
> > > > 1 file changed, 6 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > > >
> > > > diff --git a/hw/ppc/spapr.c b/hw/ppc/spapr.c
> > > > index cb840676d3..8531d13492 100644
> > > > --- a/hw/ppc/spapr.c
> > > > +++ b/hw/ppc/spapr.c
> > > > @@ -143,7 +143,12 @@ static bool pre_2_10_vmstate_dummy_icp_needed(void *opaque)
> > > > }
> > > >
> > > > static const VMStateDescription pre_2_10_vmstate_dummy_icp = {
> > > > - .name = "icp/server",
> > > > + /*
> > > > + * Hack ahead. We can't have two devices with the same name and
> > > > + * instance id. So I rename this to pass make check.
> > > > + * Real help from people who knows the hardware is needed.
> > > > + */
> > > > + .name = "pre-2.10-icp/server",
> > > > .version_id = 1,
> > > > .minimum_version_id = 1,
> > > > .needed = pre_2_10_vmstate_dummy_icp_needed,
> > >
> > > I guess this fix is acceptable as well and a lot simpler than
> > > reverting the hack actually. Outcome is the same : drop
> > > compat with pseries-2.9 and older.
> > >
> > > Reviewed-by: Greg Kurz <groug@kaod.org>
> >
> > So the reason we can't have duplicate names registered, aside from it
> > surely going bad if we actually send or receive a stream at the point
> > they are registered, is the duplcate check introduced in patch 9? But
> > before that, this hack does seem to actually work because the duplicate
> > is unregistered right away.
> >
>
> Correct.
>
> > If I understand the workaround, there is an asymmetry in the migration
> > sequence in that receiving an unexpected object would cause a failure,
> > but going from newer to older would just skip some "expected" objects
> > and that didn't cause a problem. So you only have to deal with ignoring
> > the unexpected ones going form older to newer.
> >
>
> Correct.
>
> > Side question, is it possible to flag the problem of *not* receiving
> > an object that you did expect? That might be a source of bugs too.
> >
>
> AFAICR we try to only migrate state that differs from reset : the
> destination cannot really assume it will receive anything for a
> given device.
That's true, I guess you could always add some flag yourself if
you certainly need something.
>
> > Anyway, I wonder if we could fix this spapr problem by adding a special
> > case wild card instance matcher to ignore it? It's still a bit hacky
> > but maybe a bit nicer. I don't mind deprecating the machine soon if
> > you want to clear the wildcard hack away soon, but it would be nice to
> > separate the deprecation and removal from the fix, if possible.
> >
> > This patch is not tested but hopefully helps illustrate the idea.
> >
>
> I'm not sure this will fly with older QEMUs that don't know about
> VMSTATE_INSTANCE_ID_WILD... but I'll let Juan comment on that.
You could be right about that. He gave a simpler solution now
anyway.
Thanks,
Nick
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-10-20 10:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-10-19 19:08 [PATCH 00/13] migration: Check for duplicates on vmstate_register() Juan Quintela
2023-10-19 19:08 ` [PATCH 01/13] migration: Create vmstate_register_any() Juan Quintela
2023-10-19 20:18 ` Stefan Berger
2023-10-19 19:08 ` [PATCH 02/13] migration: Use vmstate_register_any() Juan Quintela
2023-10-19 20:18 ` Stefan Berger
2023-10-19 19:08 ` [PATCH 03/13] migration: Use vmstate_register_any() for isa-ide Juan Quintela
2023-10-19 20:19 ` Stefan Berger
2023-10-19 19:08 ` [PATCH 04/13] migration: Use vmstate_register_any() for ipmi-bt* Juan Quintela
2023-10-19 20:20 ` Stefan Berger
2023-10-19 19:08 ` [PATCH 05/13] migration: Use VMSTATE_INSTANCE_ID_ANY for slirp Juan Quintela
2023-10-19 20:29 ` Stefan Berger
2023-10-19 19:08 ` [PATCH 06/13] migration: Use VMSTATE_INSTANCE_ID_ANY for s390 devices Juan Quintela
2023-10-19 20:30 ` Stefan Berger
2023-10-19 19:08 ` [PATCH 07/13] RFC migration: icp/server is a mess Juan Quintela
2023-10-19 20:49 ` Greg Kurz
2023-10-19 21:15 ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-10-20 5:10 ` Thomas Huth
2023-10-20 7:39 ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-10-19 21:39 ` Greg Kurz
2023-10-20 7:30 ` Juan Quintela
2023-10-20 8:06 ` Greg Kurz
2023-10-20 8:12 ` Thomas Huth
2023-10-20 8:57 ` Juan Quintela
2023-10-20 7:49 ` Nicholas Piggin
2023-10-20 8:33 ` Juan Quintela
2023-10-20 8:33 ` Greg Kurz
2023-10-20 10:21 ` Nicholas Piggin [this message]
2023-10-19 19:08 ` [PATCH 08/13] migration: vmstate_register() check that instance_id is valid Juan Quintela
2023-10-19 19:08 ` [PATCH 09/13] migration: Check in savevm_state_handler_insert for dups Juan Quintela
2023-10-19 19:08 ` [PATCH 10/13] migration: Improve example and documentation of vmstate_register() Juan Quintela
2023-10-19 20:38 ` Stefan Berger
2023-10-20 9:03 ` Juan Quintela
2023-10-19 19:08 ` [PATCH 11/13] migration: Use vmstate_register_any() for audio Juan Quintela
2023-10-19 20:39 ` Stefan Berger
2023-10-19 19:08 ` [PATCH 12/13] migration: Use vmstate_register_any() for eeprom93xx Juan Quintela
2023-10-19 20:39 ` Stefan Berger
2023-10-19 19:08 ` [PATCH 13/13] migration: Use vmstate_register_any() for vmware_vga Juan Quintela
2023-10-19 20:42 ` Stefan Berger
2023-10-20 7:33 ` Juan Quintela
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