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From: Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Aurelien Jarno <aurelien@aurel32.net>,
	Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] Host vs Guest memory allocation
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 17:39:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <FE4E80DC-6127-4711-9F02-F233D568CC06@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4BC337C2.2090500@redhat.com>


On 12.04.2010, at 17:09, Avi Kivity wrote:

> On 04/12/2010 05:55 PM, Richard Henderson wrote:
>> 
>>> You could reduce the overhead somewhat by using kvm for memory
>>> translation on hosts that support it. Of course tcg translation and
>>> syscall costs will grow by the exit overhead.
>> 
>> I've thought about this a bit, and what seemed to be the stickler is
>> what is the environment that runs in the guest?  TCG generated code
>> is of course fine, but what about the helper functions?  How can we
>> tell whether a given helper function can run in the restricted environment of the guest or whether it needs to transition back to the environment of the host to do its work?
> 
> I'd guess all helpers can run in guest context except those that cause a transition to target kernel mode.
> 
>> I suppose the obvious solution is some sort of flag on the function that well-maintained ports will set.  But the whole marshalling thing is still pretty tricky.
> 
> Pass everything through memory; will there be many transitions apart from trapping instructions and missing translations?

I don't see how that would help with the 64-on-32 issue. You still don't get a 64 bit address space from running inside KVM.

Alex

  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-12 15:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-05 22:45 [Qemu-devel] [RFC] Host vs Guest memory allocation Richard Henderson
2010-04-05 23:18 ` Aurelien Jarno
2010-04-12 11:48   ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-12 14:55     ` Richard Henderson
2010-04-12 15:09       ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-12 15:39         ` Alexander Graf [this message]
2010-04-12 15:49           ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-12 15:56             ` Alexander Graf
2010-04-12 16:08               ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-12 11:25 ` Paul Brook
2010-04-12 14:48   ` Richard Henderson

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