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From: "Mark Trumpold" <markt@netqa.com>
To: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>, Mark Trumpold <markt@netqa.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, markt@tachyon.net
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] 'qemu-nbd' explicit flush
Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 18:00:08 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <W635601622057331369764008@atl4webmail27> (raw)


>-----Original Message-----
>From: Stefan Hajnoczi [mailto:stefanha@gmail.com]
>Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 05:36 AM
>To: 'Mark Trumpold'
>Cc: 'Paolo Bonzini', qemu-devel@nongnu.org, markt@tachyon.net
>Subject: Re: 'qemu-nbd' explicit flush
>
>On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 09:42:08AM -0800, Mark Trumpold wrote:
>> On 5/24/13 1:05 AM, "Stefan Hajnoczi" <stefanha@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 09:58:31PM +0000, Mark Trumpold wrote:
>> >One thing to be careful of is whether these operations are asynchronous.
>> >The signal is asynchronous, you have no way of knowing when qemu-nbd is
>> >finished flushing to the physical disk.
>>
>> Right, of course.  I missed the obvious.
>
>I missed something too.  Paolo may have already hinted at this when he
>posted a dd oflag=sync command-line option:
>
>blockdev --flushbufs is the wrong tool because ioctl(BLKFLSBUF) only
>writes out dirty pages to the block device.  It does *not* guarantee to
>send a flush request to the device.
>
>Therefore, the underlying image file may not be put into an up-to-date
>state by qemu-nbd.
>
>
>I suggest trying the following instead of blockdev --flushbufs:
>
>  python -c 'import os; os.fsync(open("/dev/loopX", "r+b"))'
>
>This should do the same as blockdev --flushbufs *plus* it sends and
>waits for the NBD FLUSH command.
>
>You may have to play with this command-line a little but the main idea
>is to open the block device and fsync it.
>
>Stefan
>

Hi Stefan,

One of my early experiments was adding a command line option to 'qemu-nbd' that did an open on 'device' (similar to the -c option), and then calling 'fsync' on the 'device'.  By itself, I did not get a complete flush to disk.  Was I missing something?

Empirically, the signal solution (blockdev --flushbufs plus 'bdrv_flush_all') was keeping my disk consistent.  My unit test exercises the flush and snapshot pretty rigorously; that is, it never passed before with 'qemu-nbd --cache=writeback ...'.  However, I did not want to rely on 'sleep' for the race condition.

Is there any opportunity with the nbd client socket interface?  The advantage for me there is not modifying 'qemu-nbd' source.

Paolo had also mentioned taking a look at the newer 3.9 kernel for ideas, and possibly back porting.  I have not spent any time on this yet..

Thanks for all yours and Paolo's attention on this.

Mark T.

             reply	other threads:[~2013-05-28 18:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-28 18:00 Mark Trumpold [this message]
2013-05-29  7:42 ` [Qemu-devel] 'qemu-nbd' explicit flush Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-05-29 15:29   ` Mark Trumpold
2013-06-07 14:00   ` Mark Trumpold
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-05-23 23:35 Mark Trumpold
2013-05-24  9:06 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-05-23 21:58 Mark Trumpold
2013-05-24  9:05 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-05-25 17:42   ` Mark Trumpold
2013-05-27 12:36     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-05-24 12:10 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-22 16:10 Mark Trumpold
2013-05-21 20:01 Mark Trumpold
2013-05-22  9:47 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-05-22 11:07   ` Paolo Bonzini

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