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Tsirkin" Cc: Thomas Huth , Markus Armbruster , Peter Maydell , libvir-list@redhat.com, Richard Henderson , qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-arm@nongnu.org, Reinoud Zandijk , Marcel Apfelbaum , xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, Paolo Bonzini , Maxim Levitsky , Alex =?utf-8?Q?Benn=C3=A9e?= Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] docs/about: Deprecate 32-bit x86 hosts and qemu-system-i386 Message-ID: References: <20230228031026-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> <20230228040115-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> <20230228050908-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> <87cz5uhy50.fsf@pond.sub.org> <20230228055016-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> <072a7502-6061-12b2-f778-736c6a8f5912@redhat.com> <20230228061853-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20230228061853-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> User-Agent: Mutt/2.2.9 (2022-11-12) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 3.1 on 10.11.54.1 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=170.10.129.124; envelope-from=berrange@redhat.com; helo=us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: qemu-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Daniel =?utf-8?B?UC4gQmVycmFuZ8Op?= Errors-To: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org Sender: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 06:24:02AM -0500, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 12:12:22PM +0100, Thomas Huth wrote: > > On 28/02/2023 11.51, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > > > On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 11:39:39AM +0100, Markus Armbruster wrote: > > > > The question to answer: Is 32 bit x86 worth its upkeep? Two > > > > sub-questions: 1. Is it worth the human attention? 2. Is it worth > > > > (scarce!) CI minutes? > > > > > > 3. Is it worth arguing about? > > > > You are aware of the problems we're currently struggeling with, aren't you? > > Darn, we're having *SEVERE* problems with the CI, the QEMU project ran out > > of CI minutes for the second time this year, and you ask whether it's worth > > arguing about??? You're not serious with this question, are you? > > > > Thomas > > Yah just couldn't resist. How many minutes do we use per month btw? 100,000 wall clock minutes lasted about 2+1/2 weeks this month, and similar in Jan too. Last year we were managing to get through the whole month on 100,000, but we got backlogged with merges due to the xmas / new year shutdown, and catching up is exhausting our allowance too quickly, as well as natural growth in amount of stuff we're testing per job. With regards, Daniel -- |: https://berrange.com -o- https://www.flickr.com/photos/dberrange :| |: https://libvirt.org -o- https://fstop138.berrange.com :| |: https://entangle-photo.org -o- https://www.instagram.com/dberrange :|