From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Stefan Weil <sw@weilnetz.de>
Cc: "Markus Armbruster" <armbru@redhat.com>,
"Thomas Huth" <thuth@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
"Stefan Hajnoczi" <stefanha@redhat.com>,
"Richard Henderson" <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
libvir-list@redhat.com, "Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>,
"Reinoud Zandijk" <reinoud@netbsd.org>,
"Ryo ONODERA" <ryoon@netbsd.org>,
"Brad Smith" <brad@comstyle.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] docs/about/deprecated: Deprecate 32-bit host systems
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2023 11:47:39 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y+9pW43XDp1qt7T6@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <39bc9b17-e6f2-ed1b-0d6d-31bbb98842cf@weilnetz.de>
On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 12:05:46PM +0100, Stefan Weil wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 11:36:41AM +0100, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>
> > Which 32-bit hosts are still useful, and why?
>
>
> Citing my previous mail:
>
> I now checked all downloads of the latests installers since 2022-12-30.
>
> qemu-w32-setup-20221230.exe – 509 different IP addresses
> qemu-w64-setup-20221230.exe - 5471 different IP addresses
>
> 339 unique IP addresses are common for 32- and 64-bit, either
> crawlers or people who simply got both variants. So there remain 170
> IP addresses which only downloaded the 32-bit variant in the last week.
>
> I see 437 different strings for the browser type, but surprisingly
> none of them looks like a crawler.
>
> So there still seems to be a certain small need for QEMU installers for
> 32-bit Windows: 170 users für 32 bit only, 339 users for both 32 and 64 bit,
> 5132 users for 64 bit only.
The question which is hard/impossible to answer is whether the people
who downloaded the 32-bit build genuinely needed a 32-bit build or
just did so out of habit or confusion.
I know you can't believe everything you see with statistics, but as an
example, the chart at the bottom of this page suggests new deployments
of 32-bit Windows are negligible today:
https://www.pcbenchmarks.net/os-marketshare.html
there are existing deployments not accounted for there, but that may
still suggest many of the 32-bit downloads of QEMU will end up being
run on 64-bit hosts.
If we were to apply our support platform rule of only targetting the
latest 2 versions of the OS, this limits our targets to Win 10 and
Win 11. Windows 11 dropped 32-bit IIUC, so we're talking about
32-bit installs of Windows 10 only - even in Win10 days all new
physical hardware would have been 64-bit capable.
With regards,
Daniel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-02-17 11:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-01-30 11:44 [RFC PATCH] docs/about/deprecated: Deprecate 32-bit host systems Thomas Huth
2023-01-30 11:47 ` Peter Maydell
2023-01-30 12:01 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-01-30 12:22 ` Thomas Huth
2023-01-30 12:43 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-01-30 13:07 ` Thomas Huth
2023-01-30 19:19 ` Richard Henderson
2023-01-30 23:14 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-01-30 23:33 ` Richard Henderson
2023-01-31 0:19 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-01-30 20:45 ` Alex Bennée
2023-02-05 22:12 ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2023-04-04 14:00 ` Thomas Huth
2023-04-04 14:20 ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-04-04 15:58 ` BALATON Zoltan
2023-04-04 14:32 ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-04-04 15:42 ` BALATON Zoltan
2023-04-05 8:01 ` Thomas Huth
2023-04-05 11:54 ` BALATON Zoltan
2023-04-05 12:51 ` Thomas Huth
2023-04-04 15:50 ` BALATON Zoltan
2023-04-05 21:01 ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2023-02-22 9:11 ` Bernhard Beschow
2023-02-22 9:51 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-02-22 12:28 ` Reinoud Zandijk
2023-02-22 13:37 ` Alex Bennée
2023-02-17 10:36 ` Markus Armbruster
2023-02-17 10:40 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-02-17 10:45 ` Claudio Fontana
2023-02-17 10:47 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-02-17 11:05 ` Stefan Weil via
2023-02-17 11:43 ` Markus Armbruster
2023-02-17 11:47 ` Daniel P. Berrangé [this message]
2023-02-19 11:27 ` Reinoud Zandijk
2023-02-19 12:12 ` Stefan Weil via
2023-02-17 16:38 ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-02-17 17:43 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-02-17 18:57 ` Thomas Huth
2023-02-18 22:54 ` Jiaxun Yang
2023-02-17 19:49 ` Thomas Huth
2023-02-17 16:06 ` Reinoud Zandijk
2023-02-17 17:20 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-02-17 18:22 ` Richard Henderson
2023-02-19 11:07 ` Reinoud Zandijk
2023-02-17 11:09 ` Claudio Fontana
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