From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
Cc: "Kevin Wolf" <kwolf@redhat.com>, "Thomas Huth" <thuth@redhat.com>,
"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@redhat.com>,
"QEMU Developers" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
"Markus Armbruster" <armbru@redhat.com>,
"Alistair Francis" <alistair.francis@wdc.com>,
"Gerd Hoffmann" <kraxel@redhat.com>,
"Stefan Hajnoczi" <stefanha@redhat.com>,
"Kővágó, Zoltán" <dirty.ice.hu@gmail.com>,
"Robert Hoo" <robert.hu@linux.intel.com>,
"Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: Let's remove some deprecated stuff
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2021 11:35:25 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YIqL7dSxR/C6URkX@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFEAcA-_UTcs-XgPD6OLnKBUYJ9xnYRg9FAorinxejp7XZCxpQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 11:29:42AM +0100, Peter Maydell wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 at 11:28, Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 12:18:42PM +0200, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > > ``QEMU_AUDIO_`` environment variables and ``-audio-help`` (since 4.0)
> > > > Creating sound card devices and vnc without ``audiodev=`` property (since 4.2)
> > > > Creating sound card devices using ``-soundhw`` (since 5.1)
> > >
> > > I think these three should be dropped together, to minimize disruption.
> > >
> > > Where do we strand in terms of libvirt support? IIRC audiodev= support
> > > in libvirt is rather recent (merged this year). I'd tend to wait a bit
> > > longer because of that.
> > >
> > > Daniel?
> >
> > Libvirt added supoort for -audio in 7.2.0, release April 4th, so only
> > one month ago.
> >
> > If we drop the features in QEMU in this dev cycle though, this won't
> > impact most users until QEMU 6.1 releases in mid August. I'm perfectly
> > ok with people who use unreleased QEMU git master needing to update
> > their libvirt. The final release date is far enough away that distros
> > will have had new enough libvirt for a good while.
>
> It does feel to me that dropping the old options now would be being
> a bit over-eager, though. The deprecation cycle time is a minimum, not
> a target :-)
Note the QEMU since has been ready since 4.0, in April 2019 so 2 years.
We dropped the ball on getting this implemented in libvirt, since we
had almost no config options for sound at all in libvirt. We had just
hardcoded 3 sound backends based on the graphics frontend.
So in terms of historic libvirt compatibility, we've only ever relied
on the QEMU_AUDIODRIVER env, none of the other million audio env vars.
IOW, if QEMU was to be conservative, you can drop all env vars except
the main QEMU_AUDIODRIVER.
Regards,
Daniel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-04-29 10:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-04-29 9:59 Let's remove some deprecated stuff Markus Armbruster
2021-04-29 10:18 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-04-29 10:24 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-04-29 10:29 ` Peter Maydell
2021-04-29 10:35 ` Daniel P. Berrangé [this message]
2021-04-29 10:55 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-04-30 10:47 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-04-29 11:07 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-04-29 10:25 ` Peter Maydell
2021-04-29 10:32 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-04-30 6:47 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-04-29 11:06 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-04-29 12:40 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-04-29 13:12 ` Kevin Wolf
2021-04-29 13:46 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-04-29 15:05 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-04-30 7:01 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-04-30 7:01 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-05-03 15:10 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-04-29 11:17 ` Thomas Huth
2021-04-29 11:24 ` Peter Maydell
2021-05-03 10:39 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-04-29 14:49 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-04-29 16:32 ` Eduardo Habkost
2021-04-30 3:22 ` Robert Hoo
2021-05-03 1:41 ` Alistair Francis
2021-05-03 4:49 ` Thomas Huth
2021-05-03 7:12 ` Alistair Francis
2021-05-03 15:13 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-05-03 22:57 ` Alistair Francis
2021-05-03 13:14 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-05-03 18:21 ` Eric Blake
2021-05-04 13:59 ` Peter Krempa
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