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* [PATCH v3] docs/secure-coding-practices: Describe how to use 'null-co' block driver
@ 2021-06-01  5:35 Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
  2021-06-01  7:16 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
  2021-06-01 11:12 ` Kevin Wolf
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Philippe Mathieu-Daudé @ 2021-06-01  5:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Fam Zheng, qemu-devel, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
  Cc: Kevin Wolf, qemu-block, Markus Armbruster, Prasad J Pandit,
	Bandan Das, Max Reitz, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé

Document that security reports must use 'null-co,read-zeroes=on'
because otherwise the memory is left uninitialized (which is an
on-purpose performance feature).

Signed-off-by: Philippe Mathieu-Daudé <philmd@redhat.com>
---
v3: Simplified using Vladimir suggestion.
---
 docs/devel/secure-coding-practices.rst | 9 +++++++++
 1 file changed, 9 insertions(+)

diff --git a/docs/devel/secure-coding-practices.rst b/docs/devel/secure-coding-practices.rst
index cbfc8af67e6..79a3dcd09a3 100644
--- a/docs/devel/secure-coding-practices.rst
+++ b/docs/devel/secure-coding-practices.rst
@@ -104,3 +104,12 @@ structures and only process the local copy.  This prevents
 time-of-check-to-time-of-use (TOCTOU) race conditions that could cause QEMU to
 crash when a vCPU thread modifies guest RAM while device emulation is
 processing it.
+
+Use of null-co block drivers
+----------------------------
+
+The ``null-co`` block driver is designed for performance: its read accesses are
+not initialized by default. In case it this driver has to be used for security
+research, it must be used with the ``read-zeroes=on`` option which fills read
+buffers with zeroes. Security issues reported with the default
+(``read-zeroes=off``) will be discarded.
-- 
2.26.3



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* Re: [PATCH v3] docs/secure-coding-practices: Describe how to use 'null-co' block driver
  2021-06-01  5:35 [PATCH v3] docs/secure-coding-practices: Describe how to use 'null-co' block driver Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
@ 2021-06-01  7:16 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
  2021-06-01 11:12 ` Kevin Wolf
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy @ 2021-06-01  7:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Philippe Mathieu-Daudé, Fam Zheng, qemu-devel
  Cc: Max Reitz, Kevin Wolf, qemu-block, Markus Armbruster, Bandan Das,
	Prasad J Pandit

01.06.2021 08:35, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote:
> Document that security reports must use 'null-co,read-zeroes=on'
> because otherwise the memory is left uninitialized (which is an
> on-purpose performance feature).
> 
> Signed-off-by: Philippe Mathieu-Daudé<philmd@redhat.com>

Reviewed-by: Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@virtuozzo.com>

-- 
Best regards,
Vladimir


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* Re: [PATCH v3] docs/secure-coding-practices: Describe how to use 'null-co' block driver
  2021-06-01  5:35 [PATCH v3] docs/secure-coding-practices: Describe how to use 'null-co' block driver Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
  2021-06-01  7:16 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
@ 2021-06-01 11:12 ` Kevin Wolf
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Kevin Wolf @ 2021-06-01 11:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
  Cc: Fam Zheng, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy, qemu-block,
	Markus Armbruster, qemu-devel, Prasad J Pandit, Bandan Das,
	Max Reitz

Am 01.06.2021 um 07:35 hat Philippe Mathieu-Daudé geschrieben:
> Document that security reports must use 'null-co,read-zeroes=on'
> because otherwise the memory is left uninitialized (which is an
> on-purpose performance feature).
> 
> Signed-off-by: Philippe Mathieu-Daudé <philmd@redhat.com>
> ---
> v3: Simplified using Vladimir suggestion.
> ---
>  docs/devel/secure-coding-practices.rst | 9 +++++++++
>  1 file changed, 9 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/docs/devel/secure-coding-practices.rst b/docs/devel/secure-coding-practices.rst
> index cbfc8af67e6..79a3dcd09a3 100644
> --- a/docs/devel/secure-coding-practices.rst
> +++ b/docs/devel/secure-coding-practices.rst
> @@ -104,3 +104,12 @@ structures and only process the local copy.  This prevents
>  time-of-check-to-time-of-use (TOCTOU) race conditions that could cause QEMU to
>  crash when a vCPU thread modifies guest RAM while device emulation is
>  processing it.
> +
> +Use of null-co block drivers
> +----------------------------
> +
> +The ``null-co`` block driver is designed for performance: its read accesses are
> +not initialized by default. In case it this driver has to be used for security

"it this driver" is probably a typo?

> +research, it must be used with the ``read-zeroes=on`` option which fills read
> +buffers with zeroes. Security issues reported with the default
> +(``read-zeroes=off``) will be discarded.

Kevin



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