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From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
To: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
Cc: Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@virtuozzo.com>,
	Nir Soffer <nirsof@gmail.com>, qemu-block <qemu-block@nongnu.org>,
	QEMU Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>, Nir Soffer <nsoffer@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] qemu-{img,nbd}: Don't report zeroed cluster as a hole
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 10:09:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YMMaJcKYe8nHDdjU@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210610204617.fuj4ivqrixpz4qfj@redhat.com>

Am 10.06.2021 um 22:46 hat Eric Blake geschrieben:
> On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 11:09:05PM +0300, Nir Soffer wrote:
> > > But:
> > >
> > > $ qemu-img map --output=json -f qcow2 json:'{"driver":"qcow2","backing":null, \
> > >   "file":{"driver":"file","filename":"top.qcow2"}}'
> > > [{ "start": 0, "length": 65536, "depth": 0, "zero": true, "data": false},
> > > { "start": 65536, "length": 65536, "depth": 0, "zero": false, "data": true, "offset": 327680},
> > > { "start": 131072, "length": 131072, "depth": 0, "zero": true, "data": false}]
> > >
> > > also reports the entire file at "depth":0, which is misleading, since
> > > we have just been arguing from the qemu:allocation-depth perspective
> > > (and also from bdrv_block_status) that the qcow2 image is NOT 100%
> > > allocated (in the sense where allocation == data comes locally).
> > > Perhaps it might be better if we tweaked the above qemu-img map to
> > > produce:
> > >
> > > [{ "start": 0, "length": 65536, "depth": -1, "zero": true, "data": false},
> > > { "start": 65536, "length": 65536, "depth": 0, "zero": false, "data": true, "offset": 327680},
> > > { "start": 131072, "length": 65536, "depth": 0, "zero": true, "data": false},
> > > { "start": 196608, "length": 65536, "depth": -1, "zero": true, "data": false}]
> > 
> > It will be more consistent with "offset" to drop "depth" from output
> > if we don't have it:
> > 
> >     [{ "start": 0, "length": 65536, "zero": true, "data": false},
> >      { "start": 65536, "length": 65536, "depth": 0, "zero": false,
> > "data": true, "offset": 327680},
> >      { "start": 131072, "length": 65536, "depth": 0, "zero": true,
> > "data": false},
> >      { "start": 196608, "length": 65536, "zero": true, "data": false}]
> 
> Yes, that might work as well.  But we didn't previously document
> depth to be optional.  Removing something from output risks breaking
> more downstream tools that expect it to be non-optional, compared to
> providing a new value.

A negative value isn't any less unexpected than a missing key. I don't
think any existing tool would be able to handle it. Encoding different
meanings in a single value isn't very QAPI-like either. Usually strings
that are parsed are the problem, but negative integers really isn't that
much different. I don't really like this solution.

Leaving out the depth feels like a better suggestion to me.

But anyway, this seems to only happen at the end of the backing chain.
So if the backing chain consistents of n images, why not report 'depth':
n + 1? So, in the above example, you would get 1. I think this has the
best chances of tools actually working correctly with the new output,
even though it's still not unlikely to break something.

Kevin



  reply	other threads:[~2021-06-11  8:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-07 20:22 [PATCH] qemu-{img,nbd}: Don't report zeroed cluster as a hole Nir Soffer
2021-06-07 21:22 ` Eric Blake
2021-06-07 22:04   ` Eric Blake
2021-06-08 16:38   ` Nir Soffer
2021-06-08 18:45     ` Eric Blake
2021-06-08 20:42       ` Nir Soffer
2021-06-10 18:34     ` Eric Blake
2021-06-10 20:09       ` Nir Soffer
2021-06-10 20:46         ` Eric Blake
2021-06-11  8:09           ` Kevin Wolf [this message]
2021-06-11  8:14             ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-06-11  9:05               ` Nir Soffer
2021-06-11 11:14                 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-06-11 11:21               ` Kevin Wolf
2021-06-11 13:04                 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-06-11 13:31                 ` Eric Blake
2021-06-11 13:28             ` Eric Blake
2021-06-11 17:35               ` Nir Soffer
2021-06-11 18:34                 ` Eric Blake
2021-06-11 21:23                   ` Nir Soffer
2021-06-11 21:41                     ` Eric Blake

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