Re: [PATCH RFC 0/6] i386/pc: Fix creation of >= 1Tb guests on AMD systems with IOMMU

["Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>]

* Alex Williamson (alex.williamson@redhat.com) wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Jun 2021 10:30:29 +0100
> Joao Martins <joao.m.martins@oracle.com> wrote:
> 
> > On 6/22/21 10:16 PM, Alex Williamson wrote:
> > > On Tue, 22 Jun 2021 16:48:59 +0100
> > > Joao Martins <joao.m.martins@oracle.com> wrote:
> > >   
> > >> Hey,
> > >>
> > >> This series lets Qemu properly spawn i386 guests with >= 1Tb with VFIO, particularly
> > >> when running on AMD systems with an IOMMU.
> > >>
> > >> Since Linux v5.4, VFIO validates whether the IOVA in DMA_MAP ioctl is valid and it
> > >> will return -EINVAL on those cases. On x86, Intel hosts aren't particularly
> > >> affected by this extra validation. But AMD systems with IOMMU have a hole in
> > >> the 1TB boundary which is *reserved* for HyperTransport I/O addresses located
> > >> here  FD_0000_0000h - FF_FFFF_FFFFh. See IOMMU manual [1], specifically
> > >> section '2.1.2 IOMMU Logical Topology', Table 3 on what those addresses mean.
> > >>
> > >> VFIO DMA_MAP calls in this IOVA address range fall through this check and hence return
> > >>  -EINVAL, consequently failing the creation the guests bigger than 1010G. Example
> > >> of the failure:
> > >>
> > >> qemu-system-x86_64: -device vfio-pci,host=0000:41:10.1,bootindex=-1: VFIO_MAP_DMA: -22
> > >> qemu-system-x86_64: -device vfio-pci,host=0000:41:10.1,bootindex=-1: vfio 0000:41:10.1: 
> > >> 	failed to setup container for group 258: memory listener initialization failed:
> > >> 		Region pc.ram: vfio_dma_map(0x55ba53e7a9d0, 0x100000000, 0xff30000000, 0x7ed243e00000) = -22 (Invalid argument)
> > >>
> > >> Prior to v5.4, we could map using these IOVAs *but* that's still not the right thing
> > >> to do and could trigger certain IOMMU events (e.g. INVALID_DEVICE_REQUEST), or
> > >> spurious guest VF failures from the resultant IOMMU target abort (see Errata 1155[2])
> > >> as documented on the links down below.
> > >>
> > >> This series tries to address that by dealing with this AMD-specific 1Tb hole,
> > >> similarly to how we deal with the 4G hole today in x86 in general. It is splitted
> > >> as following:
> > >>
> > >> * patch 1: initialize the valid IOVA ranges above 4G, adding an iterator
> > >>            which gets used too in other parts of pc/acpi besides MR creation. The
> > >> 	   allowed IOVA *only* changes if it's an AMD host, so no change for
> > >> 	   Intel. We walk the allowed ranges for memory above 4G, and
> > >> 	   add a E820_RESERVED type everytime we find a hole (which is at the
> > >> 	   1TB boundary).
> > >> 	   
> > >> 	   NOTE: For purposes of this RFC, I rely on cpuid in hw/i386/pc.c but I
> > >> 	   understand that it doesn't cover the non-x86 host case running TCG.
> > >>
> > >> 	   Additionally, an alternative to hardcoded ranges as we do today,
> > >> 	   VFIO could advertise the platform valid IOVA ranges without necessarily
> > >> 	   requiring to have a PCI device added in the vfio container. That would
> > >> 	   fetching the valid IOVA ranges from VFIO, rather than hardcoded IOVA
> > >> 	   ranges as we do today. But sadly, wouldn't work for older hypervisors.  
> > > 
> > > 
> > > $ grep -h . /sys/kernel/iommu_groups/*/reserved_regions | sort -u
> > > 0x00000000fee00000 0x00000000feefffff msi
> > > 0x000000fd00000000 0x000000ffffffffff reserved
> > >   
> > Yeap, I am aware.
> > 
> > The VFIO advertising extension was just because we already advertise the above info,
> > although behind a non-empty vfio container e.g. we seem to use that for example in
> > collect_usable_iova_ranges().
> 
> VFIO can't guess what groups you'll use to mark reserved ranges in an
> empty container.  Each group might have unique ranges.  A container
> enforcing ranges unrelated to the groups/devices in use doesn't make
> sense.
>  
> > > Ideally we might take that into account on all hosts, but of course
> > > then we run into massive compatibility issues when we consider
> > > migration.  We run into similar problems when people try to assign
> > > devices to non-x86 TCG hosts, where the arch doesn't have a natural
> > > memory hole overlapping the msi range.
> > > 
> > > The issue here is similar to trying to find a set of supported CPU
> > > flags across hosts, QEMU only has visibility to the host where it runs,
> > > an upper level tool needs to be able to pass through information about
> > > compatibility to all possible migration targets.  
> > 
> > I agree with your generic sentiment (and idea) but are we sure this is really something as
> > dynamic/needing-denominator like CPU Features? The memory map looks to be deeply embedded
> > in the devices (ARM) or machine model (x86) that we pass in and doesn't change very often.
> > pc/q35 is one very good example, because this hasn't changed since it's inception [a
> > decade?] (and this limitation is there only for any multi-socket AMD machine with IOMMU
> > with more than 1Tb). Additionally, there might be architectural impositions like on x86
> > e.g. CMOS seems to tie in with memory above certain boundaries. Unless by a migration
> > targets, you mean to also cover you migrate between Intel and AMD hosts (which may need to
> > keep the reserved range nonetheless in the common denominator)
> 
> I like the flexibility that being able to specify reserved ranges would
> provide, but I agree that the machine memory map is usually deeply
> embedded into the arch code and would probably be difficult to
> generalize.  Cross vendor migration should be a consideration and only
> an inter-system management policy could specify the importance of that.

On x86 at least, the cross vendor part doesn't seem to be an issue; I
wouldn't expect an Intel->AMD migration to work reliably anyway.

> Perhaps as David mentioned, this is really a machine type issue, where
> the address width downsides you've noted might be sufficient reason
> to introduce a new machine type that includes this memory hole.  That
> would likely be the more traditional solution to this issue.  Thanks,

To me this seems a combination of machine type+CPU model; perhaps what
we're looking at here is having a list of holes, which can be
contributed to by any of:
  a) The machine type
  b) The CPU model
  c) and extra command line option like you list

Dave

> Alex
> 
> 
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Dr. David Alan Gilbert / dgilbert@redhat.com / Manchester, UK