From: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Cc: Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
Subject: Re: -only-migrate and the two different uses of migration blockers (was: spapr_events: Sure we may ignore migrate_add_blocker() failure?)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2021 13:42:57 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YPVzURLf5qqwtYsZ@work-vm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87sg0amuuz.fsf_-_@dusky.pond.sub.org>
* Markus Armbruster (armbru@redhat.com) wrote:
> We appear to use migration blockers in two ways:
>
> (1) Prevent migration for an indefinite time, typically due to use of
> some feature that isn't compatible with migration.
>
> (2) Delay migration for a short time.
>
> Option -only-migrate is designed for (1). It interferes with (2).
>
> Example for (1): device "x-pci-proxy-dev" doesn't support migration. It
> adds a migration blocker on realize, and deletes it on unrealize. With
> -only-migrate, device realize fails. Works as designed.
>
> Example for (2): spapr_mce_req_event() makes an effort to prevent
> migration degrate the reporting of FWNMIs. It adds a migration blocker
> when it receives one, and deletes it when it's done handling it. This
> is a best effort; if migration is already in progress by the time FWNMI
> is received, we simply carry on, and that's okay. However, option
> -only-migrate sabotages the best effort entirely.
That's interesting; it's the first time I've heard of anyone using it as
'best effort'. I've always regarded blockers as blocking.
> While this isn't exactly terrible, it may be a weakness in our thinking
> and our infrastructure. I'm bringing it up so the people in charge are
> aware :)
Thanks.
It almost feels like they need a way to temporarily hold off
'completion' of migratio - i.e. the phase where we stop the CPU and
write the device data; mind you you'd also probably want it to stop
cold-migrates/snapshots?
Dave
--
Dr. David Alan Gilbert / dgilbert@redhat.com / Manchester, UK
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-07-19 12:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-07-15 13:32 spapr_events: Sure we may ignore migrate_add_blocker() failure? Markus Armbruster
2021-07-19 2:31 ` David Gibson
2021-07-19 7:18 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-07-19 7:20 ` David Gibson
2021-07-19 10:41 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-07-19 11:00 ` -only-migrate and the two different uses of migration blockers (was: spapr_events: Sure we may ignore migrate_add_blocker() failure?) Markus Armbruster
2021-07-19 12:42 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert [this message]
2021-07-20 5:30 ` -only-migrate and the two different uses of migration blockers Markus Armbruster
2021-07-21 6:32 ` David Gibson
2021-07-22 18:00 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-07-25 6:25 ` David Gibson
2021-11-02 14:32 ` Juan Quintela
2021-11-02 14:30 ` Juan Quintela
2021-07-21 6:26 ` spapr_events: Sure we may ignore migrate_add_blocker() failure? David Gibson
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