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From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: Pankaj Gupta <pankaj.gupta.linux@gmail.com>,
	Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"Dr . David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Pankaj Gupta <pankaj.gupta@ionos.com>,
	Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Marek Kedzierski <mkedzier@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/6] util/oslib-posix: Support MADV_POPULATE_WRITE for os_mem_prealloc()
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2021 14:47:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YPl25wrKvadQW7Ff@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8ec55578-37b8-079a-5e04-d8160ab19109@redhat.com>

On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 03:39:50PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 22.07.21 15:31, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 02:36:30PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> > > Let's sense support and use it for preallocation. MADV_POPULATE_WRITE
> > > does not require a SIGBUS handler, doesn't actually touch page content,
> > > and avoids context switches; it is, therefore, faster and easier to handle
> > > than our current approach.
> > > 
> > > While MADV_POPULATE_WRITE is, in general, faster than manual
> > > prefaulting, and especially faster with 4k pages, there is still value in
> > > prefaulting using multiple threads to speed up preallocation.
> > > 
> > > More details on MADV_POPULATE_WRITE can be found in the Linux commit
> > > 4ca9b3859dac ("mm/madvise: introduce MADV_POPULATE_(READ|WRITE) to prefault
> > > page tables") and in the man page proposal [1].
> > > 
> > > [1] https://lkml.kernel.org/r/20210712083917.16361-1-david@redhat.com
> > > 
> > > This resolves the TODO in do_touch_pages().
> > > 
> > > In the future, we might want to look into using fallocate(), eventually
> > > combined with MADV_POPULATE_READ, when dealing with shared file
> > > mappings.
> > > 
> > > Reviewed-by: Pankaj Gupta <pankaj.gupta@ionos.com>
> > > Signed-off-by: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
> > > ---
> > >   include/qemu/osdep.h |  7 ++++
> > >   util/oslib-posix.c   | 88 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-----------
> > >   2 files changed, 74 insertions(+), 21 deletions(-)
> > 
> > 
> > > @@ -497,6 +493,31 @@ static void *do_touch_pages(void *arg)
> > >       return NULL;
> > >   }
> > > +static void *do_madv_populate_write_pages(void *arg)
> > > +{
> > > +    MemsetThread *memset_args = (MemsetThread *)arg;
> > > +    const size_t size = memset_args->numpages * memset_args->hpagesize;
> > > +    char * const addr = memset_args->addr;
> > > +    int ret;
> > > +
> > > +    if (!size) {
> > > +        return NULL;
> > > +    }
> > > +
> > > +    /* See do_touch_pages(). */
> > > +    qemu_mutex_lock(&page_mutex);
> > > +    while (!threads_created_flag) {
> > > +        qemu_cond_wait(&page_cond, &page_mutex);
> > > +    }
> > > +    qemu_mutex_unlock(&page_mutex);
> > > +
> > > +    ret = qemu_madvise(addr, size, QEMU_MADV_POPULATE_WRITE);
> > > +    if (ret) {
> > > +        memset_thread_failed = true;
> > 
> > I'm wondering if this use of memset_thread_failed is sufficient.
> > 
> > This is pre-existing from the current impl, and ends up being
> > used to set the bool result of 'touch_all_pages'. The caller
> > of that then does
> > 
> >      if (touch_all_pages(area, hpagesize, numpages, smp_cpus)) {
> >          error_setg(errp, "os_mem_prealloc: Insufficient free host memory "
> >              "pages available to allocate guest RAM");
> >      }
> > 
> > this was reasonable with the old impl, because the only reason
> > we ever see 'memset_thread_failed==true' is if we got SIGBUS
> > due to ENOMEM.
> > 
> > My concern is that madvise() has a bunch of possible errno
> > codes returned on failure, and we're not distinguishing
> > them. In the past this kind of thing has burnt us making
> > failures hard to debug.
> > 
> > Could we turn 'bool memset_thread_failed' into 'int memset_thread_errno'
> > 
> > Then, we can make 'touch_all_pages' have an 'Error **errp'
> > parameter, and it can directly call
> > 
> >   error_setg_errno(errp, memset_thead_errno, ....some message...)
> > 
> > when memset_thread_errno is non-zero, and thus we can remove
> > the generic message from the caller of touch_all_pages.
> > 
> > If you agree, it'd be best to refactor the existing code to
> > use this pattern in an initial patch.
> 
> We could also simply trace the return value, which should be comparatively
> easy to add. We should be getting either -ENOMEM or -EHWPOISON. And the
> latter is highly unlikely to happen when actually preallocating.
> 
> We made sure that we don't end up with -EINVAL as we're sensing of
> MADV_POPULATE_WRITE works on the mapping.

Those are in the "normal" usage scenarios. I'm wondering about the
abnormal scenarios where QEMU code is mistakenly screwed up or
libvirt / mgmt app makes some config mistake. eg we can get
things like EPERM if selinux or seccomp block the madvise
syscall by mistake (common if EQMU is inside docker for example),
or can we get EINVAL if the 'addr' is not page aligned, and so on.

> So when it comes to debugging, I'd actually prefer tracing -errno, as the
> real error will be of little help to end users.

I don't care about the end users interpreting it, rather us as maintainers
who get a bug report containing insufficient info to diagnose the root
cause.

Regards,
Daniel
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  reply	other threads:[~2021-07-22 13:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-22 12:36 [PATCH v2 0/6] util/oslib-posix: Support MADV_POPULATE_WRITE for os_mem_prealloc() David Hildenbrand
2021-07-22 12:36 ` [PATCH v2 1/6] " David Hildenbrand
2021-07-22 13:31   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-07-22 13:39     ` David Hildenbrand
2021-07-22 13:47       ` Daniel P. Berrangé [this message]
2021-07-22 14:13         ` David Hildenbrand
2021-07-22 12:36 ` [PATCH v2 2/6] util/oslib-posix: Introduce and use MemsetContext for touch_all_pages() David Hildenbrand
2021-07-22 12:36 ` [PATCH v2 3/6] util/oslib-posix: Don't create too many threads with small memory or little pages David Hildenbrand
2021-07-27 19:01   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-07-28 11:23   ` Pankaj Gupta
2021-07-22 12:36 ` [PATCH v2 4/6] util/oslib-posix: Avoid creating a single thread with MADV_POPULATE_WRITE David Hildenbrand
2021-07-27 19:04   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-07-30 15:13     ` David Hildenbrand
2021-07-28 11:32   ` Pankaj Gupta
2021-07-22 12:36 ` [PATCH v2 5/6] util/oslib-posix: Support concurrent os_mem_prealloc() invocation David Hildenbrand
2021-07-22 12:36 ` [PATCH v2 6/6] util/oslib-posix: Forward SIGBUS to MCE handler under Linux David Hildenbrand

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