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From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
To: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
Cc: pbonzini@redhat.com, mst@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Chao Gao <chao.gao@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] vhost: use large iotlb entry if no IOMMU translation is needed
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2021 17:11:50 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YQmxFkSo7jZ7pX8Q@t490s> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <950f83e5-cc48-17b2-4509-902ecb7cc22a@redhat.com>

On Tue, Aug 03, 2021 at 04:14:57PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> 
> 在 2021/8/3 下午1:51, Chao Gao 写道:
> > On Tue, Aug 03, 2021 at 12:43:58PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> > > 在 2021/8/3 下午12:29, Chao Gao 写道:
> > > > Ping. Could someone help to review this patch?
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Chao
> > > > 
> > > > On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 03:54:02PM +0800, Chao Gao wrote:
> > > > > If guest enables IOMMU_PLATFORM for virtio-net, severe network
> > > > > performance drop is observed even if there is no IOMMU.
> > > 
> > > We see such reports internally and we're testing a patch series to disable
> > > vhost IOTLB in this case.
> > > 
> > > Will post a patch soon.

[1]

> > OK. put me in the CC list. I would like to test with TDX to ensure your patch
> > fix the performance issue I am facing.
> 
> 
> Sure.
> 
> 
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > >    And disabling
> > > > > vhost can mitigate the perf issue. Finally, we found the culprit is
> > > > > frequent iotlb misses: kernel vhost-net has 2048 entries and each
> > > > > entry is 4K (qemu uses 4K for i386 if no IOMMU); vhost-net can cache
> > > > > translations for up to 8M (i.e. 4K*2048) IOVAs. If guest uses >8M
> > > > > memory for DMA, there are some iotlb misses.
> > > > > 
> > > > > If there is no IOMMU or IOMMU is disabled or IOMMU works in pass-thru
> > > > > mode, we can optimistically use large, unaligned iotlb entries instead
> > > > > of 4K-aligned entries to reduce iotlb pressure.
> > > 
> > > Instead of introducing new general facilities like unaligned IOTLB entry. I
> > > wonder if we optimize the vtd_iommu_translate() to use e.g 1G instead?
> > using 1G iotlb entry looks feasible.
> 
> 
> Want to send a patch?
> 
> 
> > 
> > >      } else {
> > >          /* DMAR disabled, passthrough, use 4k-page*/
> > >          iotlb.iova = addr & VTD_PAGE_MASK_4K;
> > >          iotlb.translated_addr = addr & VTD_PAGE_MASK_4K;
> > >          iotlb.addr_mask = ~VTD_PAGE_MASK_4K;
> > >          iotlb.perm = IOMMU_RW;
> > >          success = true;
> > >      }
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > >    Actually, vhost-net
> > > > > in kernel supports unaligned iotlb entry. The alignment requirement is
> > > > > imposed by address_space_get_iotlb_entry() and flatview_do_translate().
> > > 
> > > For the passthrough case, is there anyway to detect them and then disable
> > > device IOTLB in those case?
> > yes. I guess so; qemu knows the presence and status of iommu. Currently,
> > in flatview_do_translate(), memory_region_get_iommu() tells whether a memory
> > region is behind an iommu.
> 
> 
> The issues are:
> 
> 1) how to know the passthrough mode is enabled (note that passthrough mode
> doesn't mean it doesn't sit behind IOMMU)

memory_region_get_iommu() should return NULL if it's passthrough-ed?

> 2) can passthrough mode be disabled on the fly? If yes, we need to deal with
> them

I don't think it happens in reality; e.g. when iommu=pt is set it's set until
the next guest reboot.  However I don't know whether there's limitation from
spec-wise.  Also I don't know whether there's special cases, for example when
we kexec.

I've two questions..

Jason, when you mentioned the "fix" above [1], shouldn't that also fix the same
issue, and in a better way? Because ideally I think if we know vhost does not
need a translation for either iommu_platform=off, or passthrough, dev-iotlb
layer seems an overhead with no real use.

The other question is I'm also wondering why we care about iommu_platform=on
when there's no vIOMMU at all - it's about why we bother setting the flag at
all?  Or is it a valid use case?

Thanks,

-- 
Peter Xu



  reply	other threads:[~2021-08-03 21:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-21  7:54 [PATCH] vhost: use large iotlb entry if no IOMMU translation is needed Chao Gao
2021-08-03  4:29 ` Chao Gao
2021-08-03  4:43   ` Jason Wang
2021-08-03  5:51     ` Chao Gao
2021-08-03  8:14       ` Jason Wang
2021-08-03 21:11         ` Peter Xu [this message]
2021-08-04  3:19           ` Jason Wang

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