From: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
To: Tobin Feldman-Fitzthum <tobin@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: thomas.lendacky@amd.com, Ashish Kalra <Ashish.Kalra@amd.com>,
brijesh.singh@amd.com, ehabkost@redhat.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
mst@redhat.com, Steve Rutherford <srutherford@google.com>,
richard.henderson@linaro.org, jejb@linux.ibm.com, tobin@ibm.com,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, frankeh@us.ibm.com,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
dovmurik@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/13] Add support for Mirror VM.
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2021 20:04:28 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YR1ZvArdq4sKVyTJ@work-vm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <458ba932-5150-8706-3958-caa4cc67c8e3@linux.ibm.com>
* Tobin Feldman-Fitzthum (tobin@linux.ibm.com) wrote:
> On 8/17/21 6:04 PM, Steve Rutherford wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 1:50 PM Tobin Feldman-Fitzthum
> > <tobin@linux.ibm.com> wrote:
> > > This is essentially what we do in our prototype, although we have an
> > > even simpler approach. We have a 1:1 mapping that maps an address to
> > > itself with the cbit set. During Migration QEMU asks the migration
> > > handler to import/export encrypted pages and provides the GPA for said
> > > page. Since the migration handler only exports/imports encrypted pages,
> > > we can have the cbit set for every page in our mapping. We can still use
> > > OVMF functions with these mappings because they are on encrypted pages.
> > > The MH does need to use a few shared pages (to communicate with QEMU,
> > > for instance), so we have another mapping without the cbit that is at a
> > > large offset.
> > >
> > > I think this is basically equivalent to what you suggest. As you point
> > > out above, this approach does require that any page that will be
> > > exported/imported by the MH is mapped in the guest. Is this a bad
> > > assumption? The VMSA for SEV-ES is one example of a region that is
> > > encrypted but not mapped in the guest (the PSP handles it directly). We
> > > have been planning to map the VMSA into the guest to support migration
> > > with SEV-ES (along with other changes).
> > Ahh, It sounds like you are looking into sidestepping the existing
> > AMD-SP flows for migration. I assume the idea is to spin up a VM on
> > the target side, and have the two VMs attest to each other. How do the
> > two sides know if the other is legitimate? I take it that the source
> > is directing the LAUNCH flows?
>
> Yeah we don't use PSP migration flows at all. We don't need to send the MH
> code from the source to the target because the MH lives in firmware, which
> is common between the two.
Are you relying on the target firmware to be *identical* or purely for
it to be *compatible* ? It's normal for a migration to be the result of
wanting to do an upgrade; and that means the destination build of OVMF
might be newer (or older, or ...).
Dave
> We start the target like a normal VM rather than
> waiting for an incoming migration. The plan is to treat the target like a
> normal VM for attestation as well. The guest owner will attest the target VM
> just like they would any other VM that is started on their behalf. Secret
> injection can be used to establish a shared key for the source and target.
>
> -Tobin
>
> >
> > --Steve
> >
>
--
Dr. David Alan Gilbert / dgilbert@redhat.com / Manchester, UK
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-08-18 19:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-08-16 13:25 [RFC PATCH 00/13] Add support for Mirror VM Ashish Kalra
2021-08-16 13:26 ` [RFC PATCH 01/13] machine: Add mirrorvcpus=N suboption to -smp Ashish Kalra
2021-08-16 21:23 ` Eric Blake
2021-08-16 13:27 ` [RFC PATCH 02/13] hw/boards: Add mirror_vcpu flag to CPUArchId Ashish Kalra
2021-08-16 13:27 ` [RFC PATCH 03/13] hw/i386: Mark mirror vcpus in possible_cpus Ashish Kalra
2021-08-16 13:27 ` [RFC PATCH 04/13] hw/acpi: Don't include mirror vcpus in ACPI tables Ashish Kalra
2021-08-16 13:28 ` [RFC PATCH 05/13] cpu: Add boolean mirror_vcpu field to CPUState Ashish Kalra
2021-08-16 13:28 ` [RFC PATCH 06/13] hw/i386: Set CPUState.mirror_vcpu=true for mirror vcpus Ashish Kalra
2021-08-16 13:29 ` [RFC PATCH 07/13] kvm: Add Mirror VM ioctl and enable cap interfaces Ashish Kalra
2021-08-16 13:29 ` [RFC PATCH 08/13] kvm: Add Mirror VM support Ashish Kalra
2021-08-16 13:29 ` [RFC PATCH 09/13] kvm: create Mirror VM and share primary VM's encryption context Ashish Kalra
2021-08-16 13:30 ` [RFC PATCH 10/13] softmmu/cpu: Skip mirror vcpu's for pause, resume and synchronization Ashish Kalra
2021-08-16 13:30 ` [RFC PATCH 11/13] kvm/apic: Disable in-kernel APIC support for mirror vcpu's Ashish Kalra
2021-08-16 13:31 ` [RFC PATCH 12/13] hw/acpi: disable modern CPU hotplug interface " Ashish Kalra
2021-08-16 13:31 ` [RFC PATCH 13/13] hw/i386/pc: reduce fw_cfg boot cpu count taking into account " Ashish Kalra
2021-08-16 14:01 ` [RFC PATCH 00/13] Add support for Mirror VM Claudio Fontana
2021-08-16 14:15 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-08-16 14:23 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-08-16 15:00 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-08-16 15:16 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-08-16 15:35 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-08-16 14:44 ` Ashish Kalra
2021-08-16 14:58 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-08-16 15:13 ` Ashish Kalra
2021-08-16 15:38 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-08-16 15:48 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-08-18 10:31 ` Ashish Kalra
2021-08-18 11:25 ` James Bottomley
2021-08-18 15:31 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-08-18 15:35 ` James Bottomley
2021-08-18 15:43 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-08-18 16:28 ` James Bottomley
2021-08-18 17:30 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-08-18 18:51 ` James Bottomley
2021-08-18 19:47 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-08-16 17:23 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-08-16 20:53 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-08-16 23:53 ` Steve Rutherford
2021-08-17 7:05 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-08-17 8:38 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-08-17 14:08 ` Ashish Kalra
2021-08-17 16:32 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-08-17 20:50 ` Tobin Feldman-Fitzthum
2021-08-17 22:04 ` Steve Rutherford
2021-08-18 15:32 ` Tobin Feldman-Fitzthum
2021-08-18 19:04 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert [this message]
2021-08-18 21:42 ` Tobin Feldman-Fitzthum
2021-08-19 8:22 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-08-19 14:06 ` James Bottomley
2021-08-19 14:28 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-08-19 22:10 ` James Bottomley
2021-08-23 12:26 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-08-23 16:28 ` Tobin Feldman-Fitzthum
2021-08-19 14:07 ` Tobin Feldman-Fitzthum
2021-08-17 23:20 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-08-17 21:54 ` Steve Rutherford
2021-08-17 22:37 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-08-17 22:57 ` James Bottomley
2021-08-17 23:10 ` Steve Rutherford
2021-08-18 2:49 ` James Bottomley
2021-08-18 14:06 ` Ashish Kalra
2021-08-18 17:07 ` Ashish Kalra
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2021-08-16 15:07 Tobin Feldman-Fitzthum
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