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From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
To: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: "Elena Ufimtseva" <elena.ufimtseva@oracle.com>,
	"John G Johnson" <john.g.johnson@oracle.com>,
	"Jagannathan Raman" <jag.raman@oracle.com>,
	qemu-block@nongnu.org, "Juan Quintela" <quintela@redhat.com>,
	"Jason Wang" <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Leonardo Bras" <leobras@redhat.com>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Marc-André Lureau" <marcandre.lureau@redhat.com>,
	"Fam Zheng" <fam@euphon.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 3/3] migration: multifd: Enable zerocopy
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2021 11:35:33 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YS+dxUBrhogJQkEY@t490s> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YS8/cxTtiC7QIxTD@redhat.com>

On Wed, Sep 01, 2021 at 09:53:07AM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 04:29:09PM -0400, Peter Xu wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 02:16:42PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> > > On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 08:02:39AM -0300, Leonardo Bras wrote:
> > > > Call qio_channel_set_zerocopy(true) in the start of every multifd thread.
> > > > 
> > > > Change the send_write() interface of multifd, allowing it to pass down
> > > > flags for qio_channel_write*().
> > > > 
> > > > Pass down MSG_ZEROCOPY flag for sending memory pages, while keeping the
> > > > other data being sent at the default copying approach.
> > > > 
> > > > Signed-off-by: Leonardo Bras <leobras@redhat.com>
> > > > ---
> > > >  migration/multifd-zlib.c | 7 ++++---
> > > >  migration/multifd-zstd.c | 7 ++++---
> > > >  migration/multifd.c      | 9 ++++++---
> > > >  migration/multifd.h      | 3 ++-
> > > >  4 files changed, 16 insertions(+), 10 deletions(-)
> > > 
> > > > @@ -675,7 +676,8 @@ static void *multifd_send_thread(void *opaque)
> > > >              }
> > > >  
> > > >              if (used) {
> > > > -                ret = multifd_send_state->ops->send_write(p, used, &local_err);
> > > > +                ret = multifd_send_state->ops->send_write(p, used, MSG_ZEROCOPY,
> > > > +                                                          &local_err);
> > > 
> > > I don't think it is valid to unconditionally enable this feature due to the
> > > resource usage implications
> > > 
> > > https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v5.4/networking/msg_zerocopy.html
> > > 
> > >   "A zerocopy failure will return -1 with errno ENOBUFS. This happens 
> > >    if the socket option was not set, the socket exceeds its optmem 
> > >    limit or the user exceeds its ulimit on locked pages."
> > > 
> > > The limit on locked pages is something that looks very likely to be
> > > exceeded unless you happen to be running a QEMU config that already
> > > implies locked memory (eg PCI assignment)
> > 
> > Yes it would be great to be a migration capability in parallel to multifd. At
> > initial phase if it's easy to be implemented on multi-fd only, we can add a
> > dependency between the caps.  In the future we can remove that dependency when
> > the code is ready to go without multifd.  Thanks,
> 
> Also, I'm wondering how zerocopy support interacts with kernel support
> for kTLS and multipath-TCP, both of which we want to be able to use
> with migration.

Copying Jason Wang for net implications between these features on kernel side
and whether they can be enabled together (MSG_ZEROCOPY, mptcp, kTLS).

From the safe side we may want to only enable one of them until we prove
they'll work together I guess..

Not a immediate concern as I don't really think any of them is really
explicitly supported in qemu.

KTLS may be implicitly included by a new gnutls, but we need to mark TLS and
ZEROCOPY mutual exclusive anyway because at least the userspace TLS code of
gnutls won't has a way to maintain the tls buffers used by zerocopy.  So at
least we need some knob to detect whether kTLS is enabled in gnutls.

-- 
Peter Xu



  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-01 16:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-31 11:02 [PATCH v1 0/3] QIOChannel flags + multifd zerocopy Leonardo Bras
2021-08-31 11:02 ` [PATCH v1 1/3] io: Enable write flags for QIOChannel Leonardo Bras
2021-09-01 20:54   ` Eric Blake
2021-09-02  8:26     ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2021-08-31 11:02 ` [PATCH v1 2/3] io: Add zerocopy and errqueue Leonardo Bras
2021-08-31 12:57   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-08-31 20:27     ` Peter Xu
2021-09-01  8:50       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-09-01 15:52         ` Peter Xu
2021-09-01 15:59           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-09-02  7:07         ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2021-09-02  6:59       ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2021-09-07 16:44         ` Peter Xu
2021-09-08 20:13           ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2021-09-08 21:04             ` Peter Xu
2021-09-02  6:38     ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2021-09-02  8:47       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-09-02  9:34         ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2021-09-02  9:49           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-09-02 10:19             ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2021-09-02 10:28               ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-09-07 11:06                 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-09-07 18:09                   ` Peter Xu
2021-09-08  8:30                     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-09-08 15:24                       ` Peter Xu
2021-09-09  8:49                         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-09-08 20:25                   ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2021-09-08 21:09                     ` Peter Xu
2021-09-08 21:57                       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-09-09  2:05                         ` Peter Xu
2021-09-09  4:58                           ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2021-09-09 16:40                             ` Peter Xu
2021-08-31 11:02 ` [PATCH v1 3/3] migration: multifd: Enable zerocopy Leonardo Bras
2021-08-31 13:16   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-08-31 20:29     ` Peter Xu
2021-09-01  8:53       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-09-01 15:35         ` Peter Xu [this message]
2021-09-01 15:44           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-09-01 16:01             ` Peter Xu
2021-09-02  7:57             ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2021-09-07 11:13             ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-09-08 15:26               ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-09-02  7:23           ` Jason Wang
2021-09-02  8:08             ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2021-09-02  7:27       ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2021-09-02  7:22     ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2021-09-02  8:20       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-09-02  8:52         ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2021-09-02  9:20           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-09-02  9:49             ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2021-09-02  9:59               ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-09-02 10:25                 ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2021-09-07 11:17             ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-09-07 18:32       ` Peter Xu
2021-09-08  2:59         ` Jason Wang
2021-09-08  3:24           ` Peter Xu
2021-09-08  3:26             ` Jason Wang
2021-09-08  8:19           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-09-08 15:19             ` Peter Xu
2021-09-09  1:10               ` Jason Wang
2021-08-31 21:24 ` [PATCH v1 0/3] QIOChannel flags + multifd zerocopy Peter Xu
2021-09-01 19:21   ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos

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