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From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
To: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>
Cc: "Daniel P . Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	"Eduardo Habkost" <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
	"Michael S . Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"Jason Wang" <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Markus Armbruster" <armbru@redhat.com>,
	"Eric Auger" <eric.auger@redhat.com>,
	"Alex Williamson" <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Dr . David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] vl: Prioritize realizations of devices
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2021 15:02:53 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YS0rXQXwqKjhr4TA@t490s> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YSean3PIkslbTHeU@t490s>

On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 09:43:59AM -0400, Peter Xu wrote:
> > > A simple state machine can track "has IOMMU" state.  It has three states
> > > "no so far", "yes", and "no", and two events "add IOMMU" and "add device
> > > that needs to know".  State diagram:
> > > 
> > >                           no so far
> > >                    +--- (start state) ---+
> > >                    |                     |
> > >          add IOMMU |                     | add device that
> > >                    |                     |  needs to know
> > >                    v                     v
> > >              +--> yes                    no <--+
> > >              |     |   add device that   |     |
> > >              +-----+    needs to know    +-----+
> > > 
> > > "Add IOMMU" in state "no" is an error.
> > 
> > question is how we distinguish "device that needs to know"
> > from device that doesn't need to know, and then recently
> > added feature 'bypass IOMMU' adds more fun to this.
> 
> Maybe we can start from "no device needs to know"? Then add more into it when
> the list expands.
> 
> vfio-pci should be a natural fit because we're sure it won't break any valid
> old configurations.  However we may need to be careful on adding more devices,
> e.g. when some old configuration might work on old binaries, but I'm not sure.

Btw, I think this state machine is indeed bringing some complexity on even
understanding it - it is definitely working but it's not obvious to anyone at
the first glance, and it's only solving problem for vIOMMU.  E.g., do we need
yet another state machine for some other ordering constraints?

From that POV, I don't like this solution more than the simple "assign priority
for device realization" idea..

-- 
Peter Xu



  reply	other threads:[~2021-08-30 19:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-18 19:42 [PATCH 0/4] vl: Prioritize device realizations Peter Xu
2021-08-18 19:42 ` [PATCH 1/4] qdev-monitor: Trace qdev creation Peter Xu
2021-08-18 19:43 ` [PATCH 2/4] qemu-config: Allow in-place sorting of QemuOptsList Peter Xu
2021-08-18 19:43 ` [PATCH 3/4] qdev: Export qdev_get_device_class() Peter Xu
2021-08-18 19:43 ` [PATCH 4/4] vl: Prioritize realizations of devices Peter Xu
2021-08-23 18:49   ` Eduardo Habkost
2021-08-23 19:18     ` Peter Xu
2021-08-23 21:07       ` Eduardo Habkost
2021-08-23 21:31         ` Peter Xu
2021-08-23 21:54           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-08-23 22:51             ` Peter Xu
2021-08-23 21:56           ` Eduardo Habkost
2021-08-23 23:05             ` Peter Xu
2021-08-25  9:39               ` Markus Armbruster
2021-08-25 12:28                 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-08-25 21:50                   ` Peter Xu
2021-08-26  3:50                     ` Peter Xu
2021-08-26  8:01                       ` Markus Armbruster
2021-08-26 11:36                         ` Igor Mammedov
2021-08-26 13:43                           ` Peter Xu
2021-08-30 19:02                             ` Peter Xu [this message]
2021-08-31 11:35                               ` Markus Armbruster
2021-09-02  8:26                               ` Igor Mammedov
2021-09-02 13:45                                 ` Peter Xu
2021-09-02 13:53                                   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-09-02 14:21                                     ` Peter Xu
2021-09-02 14:57                                       ` Markus Armbruster
2021-09-03 15:48                                         ` Peter Xu
2021-09-02 15:06                                       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-09-02 15:26                                   ` Markus Armbruster
2021-09-03 13:00                                   ` Igor Mammedov
2021-09-03 16:03                                     ` Peter Xu
2021-09-06  8:49                                       ` Igor Mammedov
2021-09-02  7:46                             ` Igor Mammedov
2021-08-26  4:57                     ` Markus Armbruster
2021-08-23 22:05       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-08-23 22:36         ` Peter Xu
2021-08-24  2:52           ` Jason Wang
2021-08-24 15:50             ` Peter Xu
2021-08-25  4:23               ` Jason Wang
2021-09-06  9:22                 ` Eric Auger
2021-08-24 16:24         ` David Hildenbrand
2021-08-24 19:52           ` Peter Xu
2021-08-25  8:08             ` David Hildenbrand
2021-08-24  2:51       ` Jason Wang
2021-10-20 13:44 ` [PATCH 0/4] vl: Prioritize device realizations David Hildenbrand
2021-10-20 13:48   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-10-20 13:58     ` David Hildenbrand
2021-10-21  4:20   ` Peter Xu
2021-10-21  7:17     ` David Hildenbrand
2021-10-21  8:00       ` Peter Xu
2021-10-21 16:54         ` David Hildenbrand

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