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From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Stefano Garzarella <sgarzare@redhat.com>
Cc: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
	Jiang Wang <jiang.wang@bytedance.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	qemu-stable@nongnu.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	Arseny Krasnov <arseny.krasnov@kaspersky.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] vhost-vsock: fix migration issue when seqpacket is supported
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2021 14:48:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YTi/P6IKQfNzXoaf@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210908134135.xvidtghamwahbdqk@steredhat>

On Wed, Sep 08, 2021 at 03:41:35PM +0200, Stefano Garzarella wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 07, 2021 at 03:47:56PM +0200, Stefano Garzarella wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 07, 2021 at 02:22:24PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> > > On Tue, Sep 07, 2021 at 02:49:35PM +0200, Stefano Garzarella wrote:
> > > > Commit 1e08fd0a46 ("vhost-vsock: SOCK_SEQPACKET feature bit support")
> > > > enabled the SEQPACKET feature bit.
> > > > This commit is released with QEMU 6.1, so if we try to migrate a VM where
> > > > the host kernel supports SEQPACKET but machine type version is less than
> > > > 6.1, we get the following errors:
> > > > 
> > > >    Features 0x130000002 unsupported. Allowed features: 0x179000000
> > > >    Failed to load virtio-vhost_vsock:virtio
> > > >    error while loading state for instance 0x0 of device '0000:00:05.0/virtio-vhost_vsock'
> > > >    load of migration failed: Operation not permitted
> > > > 
> > > > Let's disable the feature bit for machine types < 6.1, adding a
> > > > `features` field to VHostVSock to simplify the handling of upcoming
> > > > features we will support.
> > > 
> > > IIUC, this will still leave migration broken for anyone migrating
> > > a >= 6.1 machine type between a kernel that supports SEQPACKET and
> > > a kernel lacking that, or vica-verca.
> > 
> > This should be true for migrating from kernel that supports SEQPACKET to
> > a kernel lacking that.
> > 
> > For vice-versa I'm not sure, since vhost_get_features() will disable
> > that feature if the host kernel doesn't support it, and the guest will
> > not have acked it.
> 
> I did some testing and the migration is only broken in the case of
> kernel 5.14+ (SEQPACKET supported) -> kernel 5.13 (SEQPACKET not supported).
> 
> Vice-versa works well because the feature is not acked.
> 
> > 
> > > 
> > > If a feature is dependant on a host kernel feature we can't turn
> > > that on automatically as part of the machine type, as we need
> > > ABI stability across migration indepdant of kernel version.
> > > 
> > 
> > How do we typically handle this?
> > 
> > I wrongly thought it was an expected behavior that migrating a guest
> > using a vhost device from a new kernel to an old one can fail if not all
> > features are supported.
> > 
> > I need to take a look at the other vhost devices.
> 
> I took a look at vhost-net and vhost-scsi and we don't seem to handle this
> case. Maybe I'm missing something...

We've never done very well at having a consistent story wrt deps
on kernel features. So I wouldn't be surprised to see differences
or omissions anywhere and people not notice the issue.

> So following your advice, the best thing would be to have this feature
> disabled by default and require the user to enable it explicitly so we are
> sure it is needed. At this point a migration to a kernel that doesn't
> support it is rightly broken.
> 
> Or is there something better we can do?
> 
> @Michael @Jason any thoughts?

Regards,
Daniel
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  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-08 13:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-07 12:49 [PATCH] vhost-vsock: fix migration issue when seqpacket is supported Stefano Garzarella
2021-09-07 13:22 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-09-07 13:47   ` Stefano Garzarella
2021-09-08 13:41     ` Stefano Garzarella
2021-09-08 13:48       ` Daniel P. Berrangé [this message]
2021-09-09  8:47   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-09-09  9:02     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-09-10  6:35       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-09-13 12:51         ` Stefano Garzarella
2021-09-13 13:46           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-09-14 10:42             ` Stefano Garzarella
2021-09-14 11:49               ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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