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From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
To: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
Cc: "Elena Ufimtseva" <elena.ufimtseva@oracle.com>,
	"John G Johnson" <john.g.johnson@oracle.com>,
	"Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	qemu-block@nongnu.org, "Juan Quintela" <quintela@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Leonardo Bras Soares Passos" <leobras@redhat.com>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Marc-André Lureau" <marcandre.lureau@redhat.com>,
	"Fam Zheng" <fam@euphon.net>,
	"Jagannathan Raman" <jag.raman@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 2/3] io: Add zerocopy and errqueue
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2021 11:24:05 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YTjVlaufrGLdgcpL@t490s> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YTh0wn1IoaJpVwQ9@work-vm>

On Wed, Sep 08, 2021 at 09:30:58AM +0100, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
> * Peter Xu (peterx@redhat.com) wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 07, 2021 at 12:06:15PM +0100, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
> > > > > What if we do the 'flush()' before we start post-copy, instead of after each
> > > > > iteration? would that be enough?
> > > > 
> > > > Possibly, yes. This really need David G's input since he understands
> > > > the code in way more detail than me.
> > > 
> > > Hmm I'm not entirely sure why we have the sync after each iteration;
> > 
> > We don't have that yet, do we?
> 
> I think multifd does; I think it calls multifd_send_sync_main sometimes,
> which I *think* corresponds to iterations.

Oh.. Then we may need to:

  (1) Make that sync work for zero-copy too; say, semaphores may not be enough
      with it - we need to make sure all async buffers are consumed by checking
      the error queue of the sockets,

  (2) When we make zero-copy work without multi-fd, we may want some similar
      sync on the main stream too

Thanks,

> 
> Dave
> 
> > > the case I can think of is if we're doing async sending, we could have
> > > two versions of the same page in flight (one from each iteration) -
> > > you'd want those to get there in the right order.
> > 
> > From MSG_ZEROCOPY document:
> > 
> >         For protocols that acknowledge data in-order, like TCP, each
> >         notification can be squashed into the previous one, so that no more
> >         than one notification is outstanding at any one point.
> > 
> >         Ordered delivery is the common case, but not guaranteed. Notifications
> >         may arrive out of order on retransmission and socket teardown.
> > 
> > So no matter whether we have a flush() per iteration before, it seems we may
> > want one when zero copy enabled?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > -- 
> > Peter Xu
> > 
> -- 
> Dr. David Alan Gilbert / dgilbert@redhat.com / Manchester, UK
> 

-- 
Peter Xu



  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-08 15:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-31 11:02 [PATCH v1 0/3] QIOChannel flags + multifd zerocopy Leonardo Bras
2021-08-31 11:02 ` [PATCH v1 1/3] io: Enable write flags for QIOChannel Leonardo Bras
2021-09-01 20:54   ` Eric Blake
2021-09-02  8:26     ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2021-08-31 11:02 ` [PATCH v1 2/3] io: Add zerocopy and errqueue Leonardo Bras
2021-08-31 12:57   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-08-31 20:27     ` Peter Xu
2021-09-01  8:50       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-09-01 15:52         ` Peter Xu
2021-09-01 15:59           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-09-02  7:07         ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2021-09-02  6:59       ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2021-09-07 16:44         ` Peter Xu
2021-09-08 20:13           ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2021-09-08 21:04             ` Peter Xu
2021-09-02  6:38     ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2021-09-02  8:47       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-09-02  9:34         ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2021-09-02  9:49           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-09-02 10:19             ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2021-09-02 10:28               ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-09-07 11:06                 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-09-07 18:09                   ` Peter Xu
2021-09-08  8:30                     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-09-08 15:24                       ` Peter Xu [this message]
2021-09-09  8:49                         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-09-08 20:25                   ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2021-09-08 21:09                     ` Peter Xu
2021-09-08 21:57                       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-09-09  2:05                         ` Peter Xu
2021-09-09  4:58                           ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2021-09-09 16:40                             ` Peter Xu
2021-08-31 11:02 ` [PATCH v1 3/3] migration: multifd: Enable zerocopy Leonardo Bras
2021-08-31 13:16   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-08-31 20:29     ` Peter Xu
2021-09-01  8:53       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-09-01 15:35         ` Peter Xu
2021-09-01 15:44           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-09-01 16:01             ` Peter Xu
2021-09-02  7:57             ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2021-09-07 11:13             ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-09-08 15:26               ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-09-02  7:23           ` Jason Wang
2021-09-02  8:08             ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2021-09-02  7:27       ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2021-09-02  7:22     ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2021-09-02  8:20       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-09-02  8:52         ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2021-09-02  9:20           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-09-02  9:49             ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2021-09-02  9:59               ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-09-02 10:25                 ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2021-09-07 11:17             ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-09-07 18:32       ` Peter Xu
2021-09-08  2:59         ` Jason Wang
2021-09-08  3:24           ` Peter Xu
2021-09-08  3:26             ` Jason Wang
2021-09-08  8:19           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-09-08 15:19             ` Peter Xu
2021-09-09  1:10               ` Jason Wang
2021-08-31 21:24 ` [PATCH v1 0/3] QIOChannel flags + multifd zerocopy Peter Xu
2021-09-01 19:21   ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos

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