From: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
To: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
Cc: pkrempa@redhat.com, berrange@redhat.com, ehabkost@redhat.com,
qemu-block@nongnu.org, quintela@redhat.com,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, eblake@redhat.com,
mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com, Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
libvir-list@redhat.com, pbonzini@redhat.com,
marcandre.lureau@redhat.com, jsnow@redhat.com,
libguestfs@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/9] qapi: New special feature flag "unstable"
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2021 10:22:15 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YXfIx171QE5ig/Pw@work-vm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YXewOaSDEXJDYV+1@redhat.com>
* Kevin Wolf (kwolf@redhat.com) wrote:
> Am 25.10.2021 um 07:25 hat Markus Armbruster geschrieben:
> > By convention, names starting with "x-" are experimental. The parts
> > of external interfaces so named may be withdrawn or changed
> > incompatibly in future releases.
> >
> > Drawback: promoting something from experimental to stable involves a
> > name change. Client code needs to be updated.
> >
> > Moreover, the convention is not universally observed:
> >
> > * QOM type "input-barrier" has properties "x-origin", "y-origin".
> > Looks accidental, but it's ABI since 4.2.
> >
> > * QOM types "memory-backend-file", "memory-backend-memfd",
> > "memory-backend-ram", and "memory-backend-epc" have a property
> > "x-use-canonical-path-for-ramblock-id" that is documented to be
> > stable despite its name.
> >
> > We could document these exceptions, but documentation helps only
> > humans. We want to recognize "unstable" in code, like "deprecated".
> >
> > Replace the convention by a new special feature flag "unstable". It
> > will be recognized by the QAPI generator, like the existing feature
> > flag "deprecated", and unlike regular feature flags.
> >
> > This commit updates documentation and prepares tests. The next commit
> > updates the QAPI schema. The remaining patches update the QAPI
> > generator and wire up -compat policy checking.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
>
> Obviously, replacing the old convention gets rid of the old drawbacks,
> but adds a new one: While using x- makes it very obvious for a human
> user that this is an unstable feature, a feature flag in the schema will
> almost certainly go unnoticed in manual use.
Agreed, I'd keep the x- as well.
Having said that, the x- represents a few different things (that we
don't currently distinguish):
- experimental
- for internal use
- for debugging/human use
Dave
> Kevin
>
--
Dr. David Alan Gilbert / dgilbert@redhat.com / Manchester, UK
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-10-26 9:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-10-25 5:25 [PATCH 0/9] Configurable policy for handling unstable interfaces Markus Armbruster
2021-10-25 5:25 ` [PATCH 1/9] qapi: New special feature flag "unstable" Markus Armbruster
2021-10-25 7:15 ` Juan Quintela
2021-10-25 12:05 ` Kashyap Chamarthy
2021-10-25 12:18 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-10-26 7:15 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-10-26 8:14 ` Kashyap Chamarthy
2021-10-25 19:01 ` John Snow
2021-10-26 5:35 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-10-26 7:37 ` Kevin Wolf
2021-10-26 8:36 ` [Libguestfs] " Kashyap Chamarthy
2021-10-26 9:22 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert [this message]
2021-10-26 9:28 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-10-26 9:37 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-10-26 11:34 ` Kevin Wolf
2021-10-28 8:36 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-10-26 14:56 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-10-26 15:15 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-10-26 15:22 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-10-27 5:29 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-10-25 5:25 ` [PATCH 2/9] qapi: Mark unstable QMP parts with feature 'unstable' Markus Armbruster
2021-10-25 7:16 ` Juan Quintela
2021-10-25 19:05 ` John Snow
2021-10-26 7:56 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-10-26 16:34 ` John Snow
2021-10-27 5:44 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-10-29 13:07 ` Eric Blake
2021-11-02 9:15 ` Kevin Wolf
2021-10-25 5:25 ` [PATCH 3/9] qapi: Eliminate QCO_NO_OPTIONS for a slight simplification Markus Armbruster
2021-10-25 7:17 ` Juan Quintela
2021-10-25 19:08 ` John Snow
2021-10-26 7:58 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-10-25 5:25 ` [PATCH 4/9] qapi: Tools for sets of special feature flags in generated code Markus Armbruster
2021-10-25 19:21 ` John Snow
2021-10-26 8:48 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-10-25 5:25 ` [PATCH 5/9] qapi: Generalize struct member policy checking Markus Armbruster
2021-10-25 19:28 ` John Snow
2021-10-26 9:14 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-10-26 15:43 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-10-27 5:56 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-10-25 5:25 ` [PATCH 6/9] qapi: Generalize command " Markus Armbruster
2021-10-25 12:04 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-10-26 9:40 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-10-25 19:30 ` John Snow
2021-10-25 5:25 ` [PATCH 7/9] qapi: Generalize enum member " Markus Armbruster
2021-10-25 19:36 ` John Snow
2021-10-26 9:43 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-10-26 16:14 ` John Snow
2021-10-25 5:25 ` [PATCH 8/9] qapi: Factor out compat_policy_input_ok() Markus Armbruster
2021-10-25 12:13 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-10-26 9:46 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-10-26 10:39 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-10-29 14:08 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-10-25 19:38 ` John Snow
2021-10-25 5:25 ` [PATCH 9/9] qapi: Extend -compat to set policy for unstable interfaces Markus Armbruster
2021-10-25 19:40 ` John Snow
2021-10-26 18:45 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-10-27 5:59 ` Markus Armbruster
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