From: Klaus Jensen <its@irrelevant.dk>
To: "Łukasz Gieryk" <lukasz.gieryk@linux.intel.com>
Cc: "Fam Zheng" <fam@euphon.net>, "Kevin Wolf" <kwolf@redhat.com>,
qemu-block@nongnu.org,
"Lukasz Maniak" <lukasz.maniak@linux.intel.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Hanna Reitz" <hreitz@redhat.com>,
"Stefan Hajnoczi" <stefanha@redhat.com>,
"Keith Busch" <kbusch@kernel.org>,
"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 12/15] hw/nvme: Initialize capability structures for primary/secondary controllers
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2021 13:22:41 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YYpoERnNgxaNWfrC@apples.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211108135704.GA7389@lgieryk-VirtualBox>
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On Nov 8 14:57, Łukasz Gieryk wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 08, 2021 at 09:25:58AM +0100, Klaus Jensen wrote:
> > On Nov 5 15:04, Łukasz Gieryk wrote:
> > > On Fri, Nov 05, 2021 at 09:46:28AM +0100, Łukasz Gieryk wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Nov 04, 2021 at 04:48:43PM +0100, Łukasz Gieryk wrote:
> > > > > On Wed, Nov 03, 2021 at 01:07:31PM +0100, Klaus Jensen wrote:
> > > > > > On Oct 7 18:24, Lukasz Maniak wrote:
> > > > > > > From: Łukasz Gieryk <lukasz.gieryk@linux.intel.com>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > With two new properties (sriov_max_vi_per_vf, sriov_max_vq_per_vf) one
> > > > > > > can configure the maximum number of virtual queues and interrupts
> > > > > > > assignable to a single virtual device. The primary and secondary
> > > > > > > controller capability structures are initialized accordingly.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Since the number of available queues (interrupts) now varies between
> > > > > > > VF/PF, BAR size calculation is also adjusted.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > While this patch allows configuring the VQFRSM and VIFRSM fields, it
> > > > > > implicitly sets VQFRT and VIFRT (i.e. by setting them to the product of
> > > > > > sriov_max_vi_pervf and max_vfs). Which is just setting it to an upper
> > > > > > bound and this removes a testable case for host software (e.g.
> > > > > > requesting more flexible resources than what is currently available).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This patch also requires that these parameters are set if sriov_max_vfs
> > > > > > is. I think we can provide better defaults.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Originally I considered more params, but ended up coding the simplest,
> > > > > user-friendly solution, because I did not like the mess with so many
> > > > > parameters, and the flexibility wasn't needed for my use cases. But I do
> > > > > agree: others may need the flexibility. Case (FRT < max_vfs * FRSM) is
> > > > > valid and resembles an actual device.
> > > > >
> > > > > > How about,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1. if only sriov_max_vfs is set, then all VFs get private resources
> > > > > > equal to max_ioqpairs. Like before this patch. This limits the number
> > > > > > of parameters required to get a basic setup going.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2. if sriov_v{q,i}_private is set (I suggested this parameter in patch
> > > > > > 10), the difference between that and max_ioqpairs become flexible
> > > > > > resources. Also, I'd be just fine with having sriov_v{q,i}_flexible
> > > > > > instead and just make the difference become private resources.
> > > > > > Potato/potato.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > a. in the absence of sriov_max_v{q,i}_per_vf, set them to the number
> > > > > > of calculated flexible resources.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This probably smells a bit like bikeshedding, but I think this gives
> > > > > > more flexibility and better defaults, which helps with verifying host
> > > > > > software.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If we can't agree on this now, I suggest we could go ahead and merge the
> > > > > > base functionality (i.e. private resources only) and ruminate some more
> > > > > > about these parameters.
> > > > >
> > > > > The problem is that the spec allows VFs to support either only private,
> > > > > or only flexible resources.
> > > > >
> > > > > At this point I have to admit, that since my use cases for
> > > > > QEMU/Nvme/SRIOV require flexible resources, I haven’t paid much
> > > > > attention to the case with VFs having private resources. So this SR/IOV
> > > > > implementation doesn’t even support such case (max_vX_per_vf != 0).
> > > > >
> > > > > Let me summarize the possible config space, and how the current
> > > > > parameters (could) map to these (interrupt-related ones omitted):
> > > > >
> > > > > Flexible resources not supported (not implemented):
> > > > > - Private resources for PF = max_ioqpairs
> > > > > - Private resources per VF = ?
> > > > > - (error if flexible resources are configured)
> > > > >
> > > > > With flexible resources:
> > > > > - VQPRT, private resources for PF = max_ioqpairs
> > > > > - VQFRT, total flexible resources = max_vq_per_vf * num_vfs
> > > > > - VQFRSM, maximum assignable per VF = max_vq_per_vf
> > > > > - VQGRAN, granularity = #define constant
> > > > > - (error if private resources per VF are configured)
> > > > >
> > > > > Since I don’t want to misunderstand your suggestion: could you provide a
> > > > > similar map with your parameters, formulas, and explain how to determine
> > > > > if flexible resources are active? I want to be sure we are on the
> > > > > same page.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I’ve just re-read through my email and decided that some bits need
> > > > clarification.
> > > >
> > > > This implementation supports the “Flexible”-resources-only flavor of
> > > > SR/IOV, while the “Private” also could be supported. Some effort is
> > > > required to support both, and I cannot afford that (at least I cannot
> > > > commit today, neither the other Lukasz).
> > > >
> > > > While I’m ready to rework the Flexible config and prepare it to be
> > > > extended later to handle the Private variant, the 2nd version of these
> > > > patches will still support the Flexible flavor only.
> > > >
> > > > I will include appropriate TODO/open in the next cover letter.
> > > >
> > >
> > > The summary of my thoughts, so far:
> > > - I'm going to introduce sriov_v{q,i}_flexible and better defaults,
> > > according to your suggestion (as far as I understand your intentions,
> > > please correct me if I've missed something).
> > > - The Private SR/IOV flavor, if it's ever implemented, could introduce
> > > sriov_vq_private_per_vf.
> > > - The updated formulas are listed below.
> > >
> > > Flexible resources not supported (not implemented):
> > > - Private resources for PF = max_ioqpairs
> > > - Private resources per VF = sriov_vq_private_per_vf
> >
> > I would just keep it simple and say, if sriov_v{q,i}_flexible is not
> > set, then each VF gets max_ioqpairs private resources.
> >
>
> Since you did request more tuning knobs for the Flexible variant, the
> Private one should follow that and allow full configuration. A device
> where PF.priv=64 and each VF.priv=4 makes sense, and I couldn’t
> configure it if sriov_v{q,i}_flexible=0 enabled the Private mode.
>
It was just to simplify, I am just fine with having
`sriov_vq_private_per_vf` :)
> > > - (error if sriov_vq_flexible is set)
> > >
> > > With flexible resources:
> > > - VQPRT, private resources for PF = max_ioqpairs - sriov_vq_flexible
> > > - VQFRT, total flexible resources = sriov_vq_flexible (if set, or)
> > > VQPRT * num_vfs
> > > - VQFRSM, maximum assignable per VF = sriov_max_vq_per_vf (if set, or)
> > > VQPRT
> >
> > You mean VQFRT here, right?
> >
>
> VQPRT is right, and – in my opinion – makes a better default than VQFRT.
>
> E.g., configuring a device:
>
> (max_vfs=32, PF.priv=VQPRT=X, PF.flex_total=VQFRT=256)
>
> as (num_vfs=1, VF0.flex=256) doesn’t make much sense. Virtualization is
> not needed in such case, and user should probably use PF directly. On
> the other hand, VQPRT is probably tuned to offer most (if not all) of
> the performance and functionality; thus serves as a sane default.
>
Alright.
> > > - VQGRAN, granularity = #define constant
> >
> > Yeah, 1 seems pretty reasonable here.
> >
> > > - (error if sriov_vq_private_per_vf is set)
> > >
> > > Is this version acceptable?
> > >
> >
> > Sounds good to me. The only one I am not too happy about is the default
> > of VQPRT * num_vfs. (i.e. max_ioqpairs * num_vfs) when vq_flexible is
> > not set. I think this is the case where we should default to private
> > resources. If you don't want to work with private resources right now,
> > can we instead have it bug out and complain that sriov_vq_flexible must
> > be set? We can then later lift that restriction and implement private
> > resources.
>
> I would prefer reserving sriov_v{q,i}_flexible=0 for now. That's my current
> plan for V2.
>
Alright.
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Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-10-07 16:23 [PATCH 00/15] hw/nvme: SR-IOV with Virtualization Enhancements Lukasz Maniak
2021-10-07 16:23 ` [PATCH 01/15] pcie: Set default and supported MaxReadReq to 512 Lukasz Maniak
2021-10-07 22:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-26 14:36 ` Lukasz Maniak
2021-10-26 15:37 ` Knut Omang
2021-10-07 16:23 ` [PATCH 02/15] pcie: Add support for Single Root I/O Virtualization (SR/IOV) Lukasz Maniak
2021-10-07 16:23 ` [PATCH 03/15] pcie: Add some SR/IOV API documentation in docs/pcie_sriov.txt Lukasz Maniak
2021-10-07 16:23 ` [PATCH 04/15] pcie: Add callback preceding SR-IOV VFs update Lukasz Maniak
2021-10-12 7:25 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-12 16:06 ` Lukasz Maniak
2021-10-13 9:10 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-15 16:24 ` Lukasz Maniak
2021-10-15 17:30 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-20 13:30 ` Lukasz Maniak
2021-10-07 16:23 ` [PATCH 05/15] hw/nvme: Add support for SR-IOV Lukasz Maniak
2021-10-20 19:07 ` Klaus Jensen
2021-10-21 14:33 ` Lukasz Maniak
2021-11-02 14:33 ` Klaus Jensen
2021-11-02 17:33 ` Lukasz Maniak
2021-11-04 14:30 ` Lukasz Maniak
2021-11-08 7:56 ` Klaus Jensen
2021-11-10 13:42 ` Lukasz Maniak
2021-11-10 16:39 ` Klaus Jensen
2021-10-07 16:23 ` [PATCH 06/15] hw/nvme: Add support for Primary Controller Capabilities Lukasz Maniak
2021-11-02 14:34 ` Klaus Jensen
2021-10-07 16:23 ` [PATCH 07/15] hw/nvme: Add support for Secondary Controller List Lukasz Maniak
2021-11-02 14:35 ` Klaus Jensen
2021-10-07 16:23 ` [PATCH 08/15] pcie: Add 1.2 version token for the Power Management Capability Lukasz Maniak
2021-10-07 16:24 ` [PATCH 09/15] hw/nvme: Implement the Function Level Reset Lukasz Maniak
2021-11-02 14:35 ` Klaus Jensen
2021-10-07 16:24 ` [PATCH 10/15] hw/nvme: Make max_ioqpairs and msix_qsize configurable in runtime Lukasz Maniak
2021-10-18 10:06 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-10-18 15:53 ` Łukasz Gieryk
2021-10-20 19:06 ` Klaus Jensen
2021-10-21 13:40 ` Łukasz Gieryk
2021-11-03 12:11 ` Klaus Jensen
2021-10-20 19:26 ` Klaus Jensen
2021-10-07 16:24 ` [PATCH 11/15] hw/nvme: Calculate BAR atributes in a function Lukasz Maniak
2021-10-18 9:52 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-10-07 16:24 ` [PATCH 12/15] hw/nvme: Initialize capability structures for primary/secondary controllers Lukasz Maniak
2021-11-03 12:07 ` Klaus Jensen
2021-11-04 15:48 ` Łukasz Gieryk
2021-11-05 8:46 ` Łukasz Gieryk
2021-11-05 14:04 ` Łukasz Gieryk
2021-11-08 8:25 ` Klaus Jensen
2021-11-08 13:57 ` Łukasz Gieryk
2021-11-09 12:22 ` Klaus Jensen [this message]
2021-10-07 16:24 ` [PATCH 13/15] pcie: Add helpers to the SR/IOV API Lukasz Maniak
2021-10-26 16:57 ` Knut Omang
2021-10-07 16:24 ` [PATCH 14/15] hw/nvme: Add support for the Virtualization Management command Lukasz Maniak
2021-10-07 16:24 ` [PATCH 15/15] docs: Add documentation for SR-IOV and Virtualization Enhancements Lukasz Maniak
2021-10-08 6:31 ` [PATCH 00/15] hw/nvme: SR-IOV with " Klaus Jensen
2021-10-26 18:20 ` Klaus Jensen
2021-10-27 16:49 ` Lukasz Maniak
2021-11-02 7:24 ` Klaus Jensen
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