Re: [PATCH v1 1/1] osdep: asynchronous teardown for shutdown on Linux

["Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>]

On Mon, Dec 06, 2021 at 12:43:12PM +0100, Claudio Imbrenda wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Dec 2021 11:21:10 +0000
> Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Dec 06, 2021 at 12:06:11PM +0100, Claudio Imbrenda wrote:
> > > This patch adds support for asynchronously tearing down a VM on Linux.
> > > 
> > > When qemu terminates, either naturally or because of a fatal signal,
> > > the VM is torn down. If the VM is huge, it can take a considerable
> > > amount of time for it to be cleaned up. In case of a protected VM, it
> > > might take even longer than a non-protected VM (this is the case on
> > > s390x, for example).
> > > 
> > > Some users might want to shut down a VM and restart it immediately,
> > > without having to wait. This is especially true if management
> > > infrastructure like libvirt is used.
> > > 
> > > This patch implements a simple trick on Linux to allow qemu to return
> > > immediately, with the teardown of the VM being performed
> > > asynchronously.
> > > 
> > > If the new commandline option -async-teardown is used, a new process is
> > > spawned from qemu using the clone syscall, so that it will share its
> > > address space with qemu.
> > > 
> > > The new process will then wait until qemu terminates, and then it will
> > > exit itself.
> > > 
> > > This allows qemu to terminate quickly, without having to wait for the
> > > whole address space to be torn down. The teardown process will exit
> > > after qemu, so it will be the last user of the address space, and
> > > therefore it will take care of the actual teardown.
> > > 
> > > The teardown process will share the same cgroups as qemu, so both
> > > memory usage and cpu time will be accounted properly.  
> > 
> > If this suggested workaround has any benefit to the shutdown of a VM
> > with libvirt, then it is a bug in libvirt IMHO.
> > 
> > When libvirt tears down a QEMU VM, it should be waiting for *every*
> > process in the VM's cgroup to be terminated before it reports that
> > the VM is shutoff. IOW, the fact that this workaround lets the main
> > QEMU process exit quickly should not matter. libvirt should still
> > be blocked in exactly the same place in its code, waiting for the
> > "async" cleanup process to exit. IOW, this should not be async at
> > all from libvirt's POV.
> 
> interesting, I did not know that about libvirt.
> 
> maybe libvirt could be fixed/improved to allow this patch to work?

That would not be desirable. When libvirt reports a VM as shutoff,
it is expected that all resources associated with the VM huave been
fully released, such that they are available for launching a new
VM.  We can't allow resources to be asynchronously released as that
violates app's expectation that the resources are released once the
VM is shutoff.

> surely without this patch an asynchronous teardown will not be possible
> at all

I appreciate that the current slow teardown is a pain, but async
teardown does not sound like an appealing alternative given that
the app can't use the resources again until the teardown is
complete.

Regards,
Daniel
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